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GQ Diff Centers
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 7:26 pm
by Nor
Hey guys,
I recently laid my hands on 4.6 diffs, front and rear, for my 94" LWB GQ.
The problem is, the diffs on my truck have 10 bolts on the outer shell, and the ones I found have 9 bolts.
Can I swap the R&P, i.e. keep my shells and replace the R&Ps with the new ones??
I have LSD in the back, will it still run with the new diff centers???
(P.S.: the diffs I have now are 3.9s)
Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 7:34 pm
by Area54
From the specs I have, the LSD from the 2.8 is a much tougher unit (I mean requires more torque to make it release)
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 8:30 am
by Wendle
we need to find out why those housings have a different number of studs to hold the diff first...
Something must be different..
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:04 am
by bogged
Wendle wrote:we need to find out why those housings have a different number of studs to hold the diff first...
Something must be different..
Could it just be early and later model?
Or Engine config maybe, 2.8 V 4.2 etc?
Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 10:32 am
by Wendle
H233, being an axle designation, should all be the same though...
I am thinking that maybe there is a completely different axle in europe, or a different assembly line - windsor/cleveland sort of thing..
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 11:07 am
by Singo17
Wendle wrote:H233, being an axle designation, should all be the same though...
I am thinking that maybe there is a completely different axle in europe, or a different assembly line - windsor/cleveland sort of thing..
Must be some differences as the GU H233 front has 11 bolts. There not H260s as the one I have counted is 12 bolts. Someone in Oz go count ya GQ bolt patterns anyone with a Petrol LWB should have H233 fr and rear.
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 12:56 pm
by MKPatrolGuy
Singo17 wrote:Wendle wrote:H233, being an axle designation, should all be the same though...
I am thinking that maybe there is a completely different axle in europe, or a different assembly line - windsor/cleveland sort of thing..
Must be some differences as the GU H233 front has 11 bolts. There not H260s as the one I have counted is 12 bolts. Someone in Oz go count ya GQ bolt patterns anyone with a Petrol LWB should have H233 fr and rear.
I can count them tonight, if no-one does it before then.
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:55 pm
by big red
maybe they are MQ centres?
Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:00 pm
by big red
my GU rear H233B has 11 studs
Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:00 pm
by bj on roids
TTT
Any news lads? Ill count them off a GQ here tonight and see what it gets its a 88-92 early style with 4 wheel disc.
Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 5:01 pm
by bj on roids
Singo17 wrote:Wendle wrote:H233, being an axle designation, should all be the same though...
I am thinking that maybe there is a completely different axle in europe, or a different assembly line - windsor/cleveland sort of thing..
Must be some differences as the GU H233 front has 11 bolts. There not H260s as the one I have counted is 12 bolts. Someone in Oz go count ya GQ bolt patterns anyone with a Petrol LWB should have H233 fr and rear.
Whats yours singo, your diffs bolt in apparently!
Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 3:32 pm
by bj on roids
My own research into this shows 11 bolts that bolt the rear centre to the rear housing, H233, 88-92 Australian GQ.
Anybody else?
Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 7:57 pm
by Singo17
bj on roids wrote:Singo17 wrote:Wendle wrote:H233, being an axle designation, should all be the same though...
I am thinking that maybe there is a completely different axle in europe, or a different assembly line - windsor/cleveland sort of thing..
Must be some differences as the GU H233 front has 11 bolts. There not H260s as the one I have counted is 12 bolts. Someone in Oz go count ya GQ bolt patterns anyone with a Petrol LWB should have H233 fr and rear.
Whats yours singo, your diffs bolt in apparently!
Sorry dude H260 rear H233 fr. 12 bolt rear 11 front. Outta my GU 3.0TDI is that what you were after?
Sorry if I am not getting something here as some posts have been deleted.
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 8:54 am
by bj on roids
Thats what im saying I counted 11 front and rear on this 1990 GQ down here. So how come old mate gets 10 and 9???
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 9:06 am
by Singo17
bj on roids wrote:Thats what im saying I counted 11 front and rear on this 1990 GQ down here. So how come old mate gets 10 and 9???
This is exactly what I was trying to get at in the first place I assumed that the bolt pattern my front would be the same as a GQ but could not confirm. Now that it is confirmed how do you get 10 bolt and he has 9 bolt fitted.
What were the ?200 which I believe is navara and some MQ's and also was G60 I think.
Is it just me because I actually would like to know what is the answer to this question because I am an inquisitive bastard.
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:33 am
by bogged
Front
1979-88 C200 30.4 (1.20") 29 All RD107
4.625's
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 7:05 pm
by big red
this got my curiosity up so i've counted the crownwheel bolts on my rear H233B 4.6 diff centre and it has 9 bolts.
perhaps the H260 has 10 bolts
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 7:32 pm
by big red
front H233 has 9 bolts holding the crown wheel on
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 8:03 am
by Zac Zec
All you need to do is pull the crown and pinion off the 4.6 diff centres and they will bolt onto 4.11 diff centres if thats what you have in it currently
Cheers
Zac
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 9:00 am
by Wendle
there is some
stuff going on here, I must remember to count the studs on my maverick. I will count the studs on my G60 as well when I am there next, I think that is c200 front & h260 rear.
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 6:02 pm
by bj on roids
carlton your maverick has eleven holding the rear diff in
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 6:40 pm
by Area54
Ford DA Mav, 1992, top spec XL wagon (lekky windows), eleven bolts holding the front diff, eleven holding the rear.