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Who has made up their own spare wheel carrier Now with pics*

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:17 pm
by trains
Hi chaps.

Ive started on a spare wheel carrier for my ln106.
It bolts onto the towbar on the side with some 5mm steel plate, and then some 70mm sq tube takes that outboard to under the lights where I have used some shackle bushes for the pivot, the arm that has the upright for the tyre comes back along to the center of the towbar where it hooks up to the bar.
Load is taken directly onto the 5mm section by the outer bar having top and bottom pieces welded to it, so the tubes support each other, if that makes sence.

What have others done, sorry I dont have any piccys as I dont have a digi camera ;(

Cheers

Trains

Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:22 pm
by -Mick-
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... el+carrier

I'll get pics of the finished product tomorrow night. Turned out great and cost less than $100 :)

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 7:05 am
by MYTTUF
The Fish & I made ours for our 80s and I'm sure they were discussed on here. Do a search and I'm sure you'll find some info on our project.
Jonesy

Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:55 pm
by GRINCH
most people use a trailer stub axle for the pivot, less rattles because of the tapered bearings,

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 6:11 pm
by trains
Hi chaps.
Just as follow up on the spare wheel carrier.

The suspention bushes worked well for the pivot of the carrier, and carrier with spare wheel/ tyre on it worked very well over all road surfaces etc.
Basic design worked well, and for 2 days work, and rummaging thru the scrap bin, im very happy with a cheap wheel carrier, ie free !.
I used old worn bushes from when I did the suspention, and I didnt bother getting new ones till I had tested the design.
Im now very happy with the result, and will get some new bushes and it will work a treat.
The top of one of the bushes cut out, but as they were old stuffed bushes, they worked very well.
If I can get a piccy of it, I will post if if people are interested.
cheers

Trains

Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:58 pm
by trains
Hi chaps,
Here are some piccies that should explain the spare wheel carrier a little better.

Where it bolts to tow bar frame.
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Shows the hinge point which is 2 rubber spring shackle bushes.
Will put some new ones in, and it wont droop like it currently does when open, as the old bushes I used are really badly worn.
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This shows the clamp that holds it closed.
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Close up of the lock.

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Partly open, you can see where the vertical loads are taken when its closed, where it comes out from the side of the tow bar, and where it locks nearer the tow ball attach point, the bushes only take load when its open fully.
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some piccies of my dual battery setup too.
Who said it wouldnt fit in a lux ;).
Made up the cradle out of some scrap 90deg angle iron. Its bolted in 2 seperate places on the body, each with 2 bolts, and a reinforcing plate on the other side of each bolt.

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Just enough room for the motor to rock and roll, and not foul the side of the carrier.
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Cheers

Trains

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 9:42 am
by rockcrawler31
ha! great booty fab

nice

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:27 am
by LuxyBoy
Trains -
Nice work with the second battery :armsup:
What is the bottle behind it, bigger wiper bottle :?:

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 10:59 am
by kinglakekustoms
yeah it is the wipper bottle as u said but he has moved it when he put the dual bateries in for more room because they are genaeral mounted between the radiater panel and the black battery. just a guees i dont no 4 shure though.

nice fab job tooo

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 1:49 pm
by pongo
ver nice carrier. Simple and effective. i like the idea of the plates to help support the bushes.

Ill definatly be pinching that little idea for mine.

Cheers and good work

Posted: Wed Aug 23, 2006 7:00 pm
by GeneralFubashi
that carrier for the tyre looks great, but maybe i'd suggest drilling a hole through the carrier above or below the latch so that you can fit a lock pin or something that will keep the gate closed if the latch breaks.

I made dual carriers for the 40, which were crude compared with yours, however latches always seem to be the cause for concern, especially after heavy corrugations. (nearly hit a copper with the spare whilst he was booking someone, he was very nice about it)

And it appears, as well as you have made the frame, the catch might be the week point here also.

Hope this helps, but i'm sure you know your stuff.

Cheers
Sam

Posted: Thu Aug 24, 2006 10:29 am
by trains
Hi chaps.
Thanks for the kind words.

LuxyBoy, that wiper bottle was on the vehicle when I got it, I just moved it back, and closer to the exhaust, so far, its not been affected by said exhaust, infact its pretty cool there. I was worried that the 2nd batt would be too close to it as a heat source, but its fine.

Kinglakekustoms is on the money.
A very basic cradle to hold the wiper bottle assy, bolted onto one of the vac booster bolts, and down near the bottom of the wheel well area.

Pongo
Go for it mate, your welcome to :) .
I dont think those plates will move too much, have already done some hard corrogations ( a good few days worth) , and 5500kms on it, and its fine so far.
I think if you used nolathane they may not be needed. I used rubber ones, as thats what I had laying around at the time.
The 90deg piece that bolts onto the tow bar frame, I added 2 sq flat pieces to reduce the flex in that piece when the wheel was extended.
For extra strength, I should have filled in the end of the outer carrier piece near the hinge point.
I left the sq tube open near the latch point so i could easily get to the nuts inside to replace the latch if it broke. Where it slides into the female piece, I closed that end off, so It wouldnt crush, as its a very low tolerance fit there so it will take some of the vertical twisting loads that the wheel puts on that point of the unit.
Speaking of that female piece, thats bolted with 2 bolts at the back, so It can be removed completely if required.

I added another 90 deg section where the 90 deg piece (that bolts to the towbar), and the small sq tube piece that has the bushes in it at the end joins, this took alot of the side load stresses, and closed up the end of the square tube, you can also see how the vertical load is taken up at this point as the extendable bit sits on the 90 deg angle piece here too.
Well it made sence to me :D

GeneralFubashi,
Very good idea, I will have another look at it, and try to add it sometime this week. That clamp is good, but I dont think its as *robust* as the rest of it. Thats why I made it easy to remove, and replace it if the time comes.
A drop pin to secure it in long transit would be the finishing touch.
Thanks for the suggestion, its a goodie.

Ps, many thanks for not pointing out the rough rush job, 2 min wonder white battery clamp I whizzed up just before I left the workshop, yes its rough, looks tardy, but its strong, and works :cool:

The other battery top holder is just that, a holder :armsup:

:)

Trains

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:03 pm
by objet
Here's the pics again, since the previous links have died.



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Now I've got to get working on my own bar....

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 5:01 pm
by Struth
I will send some photos of mine tonight

Cheers Struth