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NEW OVERKILL RIG

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 10:41 pm
by antt
c'mon sam, what's the goss. what sorta vitara did ya get? :D

Re: NEW OVERKILL RIG

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2003 11:13 pm
by Beastmavster
antt wrote:c'mon sam, what's the goss. what sorta vitara did ya get? :D


Another one has seen the light.....

You have been redeemed Sam......

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 1:57 pm
by greg
I must admit that this thread has me a little concerned:

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... php?t=7940

I say this because I've always been telling my better third that one day my little car will be complete and I will be satisfied with it and there will never be any more mods going on - just maintenance etc etc...

But now I see that even having what could possibly be described as the 3rd most capable rig in australia (based upon results from last years tuff truck) may not be sufficient to quench the thirst of we - the 4wders...

Is this always going to be the case? Is anyone out there actually satisfied with their car... Do any of you just drive it around completely happy with what it can do?

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 2:02 pm
by Gutless
Unfortunately no. And we who modify our zooks are just like those who mod their V8's and the rice boys with the 4's.......we just don't know when to stop! Most of the time it take someone else to stop us..(useually the handbrake :roll: ) so you can look forward to many more years to come, of arguments with the wife about why you need to spend yet MORE money on the zook :lol:

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 2:06 pm
by antt
i remember sam saying in another thread that he wished that he'd built a registered rig so he could get more seat time, maybe thats the main reason :?

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 2:13 pm
by greg
Gutless wrote:Unfortunately no. And we who modify our zooks are just like those who mod their V8's and the rice boys with the 4's.......we just don't know when to stop! Most of the time it take someone else to stop us..(useually the handbrake :roll: ) so you can look forward to many more years to come, of arguments with the wife about why you need to spend yet MORE money on the zook :lol:


Phew... I was getting worried that there would soon be nothing left to fight about... but now that I have been reassured that the battle will continue, I'm a happy man. ;)

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:42 pm
by Beastmavster
greg wrote:
Gutless wrote:Unfortunately no. And we who modify our zooks are just like those who mod their V8's and the rice boys with the 4's.......we just don't know when to stop! Most of the time it take someone else to stop us..(useually the handbrake :roll: ) so you can look forward to many more years to come, of arguments with the wife about why you need to spend yet MORE money on the zook :lol:


Phew... I was getting worried that there would soon be nothing left to fight about... but now that I have been reassured that the battle will continue, I'm a happy man. ;)


I remember a time not that long ago when I thoguht a set of 235/75 AT's would be all I would need to do to my Vitara.....

Ahh well got a different toy to blow money on.... I was getting a bit bored of hotting up old dattos anyway.

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:44 pm
by OVERKILL ENG
Antt has it the main reason is the lack of driving I get in the buggy.The buggy is the most capable truck I have ever driven it leaves my old ZOOK (the one I came 3rd in at TTC)for dead.Although we came second at both rounds of XRCC they didn't come close to stretching the capabilities of the buggy.
I want to build another Zook for a few reasons
1.get more time behind the wheel
2.get more involved in club trips to meet more people
3.want to do the outback challenge next year and a few winch events.
4. my kids are getting to the age where they can come out with me.

I will be honest The VITARA won't come close to been as good in the rocks as the buggy but it will be a good all round truck. I will still compete in all the rockcrawling events in it just in Mod truck as apposed to outlaw.
If all goes well I will be left with the chassis and cage from the buggy which I will put in a corner and once the insurance issues and there are enough events to warrant having it I will put it back together and drive it.

I am still looking for a Vit. All I want is a early model preferably injected white hardtop SWB.
I will do a solid swap with the front diff out of the buggy.
Stretch the wheelbase to about 96 inches.
External cage
TURBO
35 inch tyres (does anyone run these yet on a Vit in AUS)
coils all round
New three link in the rear(to move the diff back)
five or four link in the front.
NO BODY LIFT.
ARB's front and rear


Any other ideas???
SAM

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 9:54 pm
by Beastmavster
overkill wrote:I will be honest The VITARA won't come close to been as good in the rocks as the buggy but it will be a good all round truck. I will still compete in all the rockcrawling events in it just in Mod truck as apposed to outlaw.
If all goes well I will be left with the chassis and cage from the buggy which I will put in a corner and once the insurance issues and there are enough events to warrant having it I will put it back together and drive it.

I am still looking for a Vit. All I want is a early model preferably injected white hardtop SWB.
I will do a solid swap with the front diff out of the buggy.
Stretch the wheelbase to about 96 inches.
External cage
TURBO
35 inch tyres (does anyone run these yet on a Vit in AUS)
coils all round
New three link in the rear(to move the diff back)
five or four link in the front.
NO BODY LIFT.
ARB's front and rear
SAM


I woulda thought that KIDS = LWB but.

I don't know of anyone running bigger than 33"s on a vitara, but there's a few on 33"s.

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 10:09 pm
by OVERKILL ENG
Suzuki Viagra wrote:
overkill wrote:I will be honest The VITARA won't come close to been as good in the rocks as the buggy but it will be a good all round truck. I will still compete in all the rockcrawling events in it just in Mod truck as apposed to outlaw.
If all goes well I will be left with the chassis and cage from the buggy which I will put in a corner and once the insurance issues and there are enough events to warrant having it I will put it back together and drive it.

I am still looking for a Vit. All I want is a early model preferably injected white hardtop SWB.
I will do a solid swap with the front diff out of the buggy.
Stretch the wheelbase to about 96 inches.
External cage
TURBO
35 inch tyres (does anyone run these yet on a Vit in AUS)
coils all round
New three link in the rear(to move the diff back)
five or four link in the front.
NO BODY LIFT.
ARB's front and rear
SAM


I woulda thought that KIDS = LWB but.

I don't know of anyone running bigger than 33"s on a vitara, but there's a few on 33"s.




I have 3 kids and the wife won't come so there are plenty of seats in a SWB
SAM

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 10:15 pm
by antt
why have you decided to go for a hardtop sam? just thought you might want to keep the weight down up that high :?

Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 10:26 pm
by OVERKILL ENG
antt comfort more than anything and keeps the mud out.
SAM

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 10:31 am
by N*A*M
won't your solid axle swap and suspension mods rule you out of "modified class"?

anyway, sounds like it'll be a wicked vitara... possibly toughest in australia?

get the kids started young sam. soon you'll be building them a mini-crawler out of your old chassis! :D

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:39 pm
by Ferwoaza
I can understand your reasoning about the Hardtop Sam, but maybe a Softtop version with Fibreglass removable Hardtop would be a better idea? Best of both worlds?

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 4:51 pm
by N*A*M
do vitara's even come with fibreglass hard tops? :? :?:

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 5:24 pm
by skippy
N*A*M wrote:do vitara's even come with fibreglass hard tops? :? :?:


i'm pretty certain Flexy Glass Australia make a fiberglass roof for the vitara.

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 6:57 pm
by redzook
Ferwoaza wrote:I can understand your reasoning about the Hardtop Sam, but maybe a Softtop version with Fibreglass removable Hardtop would be a better idea? Best of both worlds?


fiberglass top wouldnt be any good to much hassel to try an design the exo cage around it

get a HARDTOP :D

Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 7:04 pm
by twinnie
hello

this looks like a better lace to put my post oopps :?

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... php?t=7940

matt

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 7:55 am
by OVERKILL ENG
Ferwoaza wrote:I can understand your reasoning about the Hardtop Sam, but maybe a Softtop version with Fibreglass removable Hardtop would be a better idea? Best of both worlds?


Murray that may be an option if i can't find a hard top one but the roof wouldn't ever be coming off. as the cage will be going over it.
SAM

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 9:32 am
by OVERKILL ENG
What are VITS worth I can get an 89 model hartop (green) that needs a bonnet gaurd and front bar for $3000 is that good :?: :?: :?:

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 9:39 am
by Sixty
Check for rust in the rear passenger floor!

& yeah, the price seems ok esp compared to the NT.

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 9:40 am
by antt
doesn't seem too bad sam, mine was just under 7k its a 93 efi

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 10:43 am
by grimbo
Here you go Sam. Build it like this one. I have no idea of the specs. All i know is that it is from Canada and you may be able to find out more from www.whiteknight.ca

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 11:01 am
by Ferwoaza
www.redbook.com.au is usually a pretty good guide for prices of cars...

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 11:27 am
by N*A*M
grimbo wrote:Here you go Sam. Build it like this one. I have no idea of the specs. All i know is that it is from Canada and you may be able to find out more from www.whiteknight.ca


video footage of same event
http://www.4x4movies.com/movies/2003SHOWDOWN.wmv

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 11:30 am
by grimbo
yeah thats where I got the screen grab from

Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 8:05 pm
by Beastmavster
overkill wrote:What are VITS worth I can get an 89 model hartop (green) that needs a bonnet gaurd and front bar for $3000 is that good :?: :?: :?:


That's good.... I paid that for my soft-top 88 model and I got that damn cheap. Mine had no accident damage, but stuffed suspension all round - Just what a 4wder wants.

Mind you it ain't what it costs you to buy that's gonna be the issue really is it?

I've got a front bar you can have but I think you'll have a tube bullbar on it within a week anyway.....

Sounds like a goer.... since you're gonna ditch the bumper anyway and chop the guards.

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 12:06 pm
by OVERKILL ENG
Am going out on Tuesday to look at it if all goes well I will start cutting on Wednesday :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 7:39 pm
by OVERKILL ENG
Its coming :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 7:40 pm
by antt
is it that swb 88 model hardtop sam???