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extended brake lines

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:07 am
by MudLux101
i need to extend my brake lines in the search of more travel

i am trying to decide wether it is better to just get standard extended lines or should i go for some braided stainless steel lines

Are the braided lines that much better?? i have heard that they are not as strong. or aleast the allpro ones arnt

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:46 pm
by kinglakekustoms
go for some custome made rubber one from ABS or somwhere like that when they start to deteriate they are much easyier to detect problems with(splits cuts ext)i hav heard that with the braided stainless stell ones the nylon in side when they bend and flex gets wrecked very quickly and deteriate much quicker hope that helps . this is just been what i was told when getting my one.

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:06 pm
by vorno_18
you dont have as much brake feel with braided lines, its either on or off and its hard to judge it at first

thats what ive been told but have yet to experience them myself

price wise is a big difference

you can always just buy some standard ones from the wreckers and join them to yours and it works fine and cheaply done too

Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:57 pm
by FourSpin
You get WAY WAY better break feel from braided lines...don't know where you got your info from.

With braided lines, the lines don't bulge out as much so when you put your foot down the breaks come on and you don't have .5 seconds of lines expanding before they start engaging....it basically just comes down to what you are used to....if you've never had braided lines and you hop in and give it a go you might think the feel is worse...but IMHO its better...and you get used to it, but yeah, deffinately IMHO braided = better feel...

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:38 am
by MudLux101
that what i had figured about better feel. i have never driven anything with braided lines before. maybe i should keep it that way so i dont know what im missing ;)

at the moment i have them exteneded buy joining 2 lines together. i want to replace this with a single line. the join doesn't fill me with confidence

after reading around turns out that the line from a 90-96 Nissan 300ZX
has the right fittings and is 23" long.

does anyone know the length of a stock brake line???

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:56 am
by Gribble
vorno_18 wrote:you dont have as much brake feel with braided lines, its either on or off and its hard to judge it at first

thats what ive been told but have yet to experience them myself

price wise is a big difference

you can always just buy some standard ones from the wreckers and join them to yours and it works fine and cheaply done too
I find there is much more feel and feedback from a car that has braided lines. Yes the pedal has next to no travel but its down to how much force you put on the pedal as opposed to how far down you push it. Once you get used to the feeling its a vast improvement.

The price difference isn't all that much, but you do get what you pay for, and make sure that it complies with the australian standard. Alot of braided hose doesn't. And if your braided hose is cracking prematurely there is a good chance its not sitting in its natural bend radius or just hasnt been set up well.

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:59 pm
by ferrit
i just got 200m extended brake lines from PBR.

700mm long, Female to female- hilux front ends are odd fittings...

standard rubber, brand new connectors, $41 each side.

Braided lines were $120 each side......


And remember, its a hilux- mine has muddies, i can EASILY exceed my grip levels of the tyres, so braided werent a big requirement!

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:49 pm
by Gribble
ferrit wrote:And remember, its a hilux- mine has muddies, i can EASILY exceed my grip levels of the tyres, so braided werent a big requirement!
I have 200mm extended lines on all corners (ok the rear has only 1 line) and i can get the pedal to hit the floor.

Yes I have bleed the system. Im going braided lines. I love the feeling in the rally cars and i think having them in a 4wd is going to be a massive advantage.

Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:16 pm
by ferrit
ive noticed mine takes more pressure on the pedal to stop em, and thats with 200m on the front and stock on the rear.

If it becomes a massive problem, i'll get the master cylinder overhaulled, stainless steel sleaved for more fluid flow... or just adapt an 80 series or prado MS into it