Outer Limits 4x4 Board

hi all
i went to my toyota dealer toyday to pick up my new 100 wagon and inquired about trading the toyota t/d ute in for a new one and was told to wait till march because there is a new shape ute on the way with a TWIN TURBO V8 donk in it its the real deal im told... has anyone else heard of this?? the dealer was dead serious as he could have easily have sold me a current one easy enough...
cheers jp

yep for sure twin turbo desiel V8.
their has also been speculation that the cruisers will not come in a six any more all will now be V8's. also talk of the utes maybe being IFS????????? but i question that pretty hard.

mate, ive said this before and got shot down for it....i work at toyota altona and can confirm from reliable sources that toyota IS bringing out the new troopy and cruiser ute later this year, the shape hasn't changed much, and yes it does have a v8 diesel, but only a single turbo, non-intercooled.

The twin turbo intercooled model is being save for the new cruiser wagon which is a totaly new shape and will come out late next year. was supposed to come out with the ute and troopy but had some sort of problems.

Yes they are common rail diesels, their torque figures I heard would challenge an F-series 7.3, and your all more than welcome to shoot me down again over my comments as you all did last time.

Hope it helped mate!

Max

mmaaxx wrote:mate, ive said this before and got shot down for it....i work at toyota altona and can confirm from reliable sources that toyota IS bringing out the new troopy and cruiser ute later this year, the shape hasn't changed much, and yes it does have a v8 diesel, but only a single turbo, non-intercooled.

The twin turbo intercooled model is being save for the new cruiser wagon which is a totaly new shape and will come out late next year. was supposed to come out with the ute and troopy but had some sort of problems.

Yes they are common rail diesels, their torque figures I heard would challenge an F-series 7.3, and your all more than welcome to shoot me down again over my comments as you all did last time.

Hope it helped mate!

Max

Any other details of the ute/troopy? IFS, auto, size etc?

Any clues on the price tag they will be carrying yet??

prices are released at the last minute before release. Got no details yet but we will be one of the first to see them so if I can get a snap shot I will.

Any body know how big the V8 is? Is it a baby V8 like the 4.7L?? or has it got some metal behind it like The F-Trucks 7.3L? As long as it has that V8 Diesel Rattle im happy

do toyota allready make a diesel v8?? if not do you know if they are gunna bring one out or are they pinchin one?

I'd love to put a V8 twin turbo diesel into my 40#

i saw a picture up on 4wdmonthkly forum a while ago and the cruiser wagon looks horrible! engine sounds impresive tho!

79 series might have to wait for TOYOTA V8 TURBO DEISEL POWER!!!

mmaaxx wrote:mate, ive said this before and got shot down for it....i work at toyota altona and can confirm from reliable sources that toyota IS bringing out the new troopy and cruiser ute later this year, the shape hasn't changed much, and yes it does have a v8 diesel, but only a single turbo, non-intercooled.

The twin turbo intercooled model is being save for the new cruiser wagon which is a totaly new shape and will come out late next year. was supposed to come out with the ute and troopy but had some sort of problems.

Yes they are common rail diesels, their torque figures I heard would challenge an F-series 7.3, and your all more than welcome to shoot me down again over my comments as you all did last time.

Hope it helped mate!

Max

Where got torque figures to compromise a F-serires? If you claim to be one of those cheap assed salesman where is your evidence boy?

Where got torque figures to compromise a F-serires? If you claim to be one of those cheap assed salesman where is your evidence boy?



WTF???

I am going to Totota right now to find out

to quote Big Kev "I'M EXCITED"

in regards to GOTOYS request for evidence on torque figures, I assure you I dod not make them up and how can you get evidence when it is told to you buy an engineer? Was I supposed to record him saying it to me, or should I have said to him "hold on a sec, let me tape you on my mobile so I cxan put it in the forums because no one will beleive me otherwise"?

Then you'd say to me, thats not a real engineer, prove it?

WTF?

When will it end?

When it comes out, and if I am proven wrong (I dont beleive I will be), then by all means, bag the hell out me then.

Max.

P.S the Prado does get a bigger D4D engine by the end of the year!
no specs yet...sorry

"Where got torque figures to compromise a F-serires?"
I say boy, thats some dang fine anglash thar boy.... LOL

more importantly will they still have solid front ends or will we have to do sas on a brand new truck just to be able to drive where a 1970 cruiser would go stock?

OISTA wrote:I am going to Totota right now to find out

to quote Big Kev "I'M EXCITED"

i do believe he's saying 'i'm expired' these days.

taken from www.toyota.com






FJ Cruiser

Engine 4.0-liter DOHC 24-valve SFI VVT-i V6
239 hp @ 5200 rpm;
278 lb.-ft. @ 3700 rpm
Ignition Electronic, with Toyota Direct Ignition System(TDIS)
Transmission 5-speed electronically controlled automatic overdrive (ECT); 6-speed manual (full-time 4WD model)
Drivetrain Rear-wheel 2WD or part-time 4WD for automatic transmission models; full-time 4WD for manual transmission models; automatic limited-slip differential (2WD model)
Suspension High-mounted, double-wishbone front suspension and stabilizer bar (click here to see how IFS works); 4-link rear suspension with lateral rod with coil springs and stabilizer bar (click here to see the rear suspension in action)
Steering Power-assisted variable-gear rack-and-pinion
Turning circle diameter --
curb to curb (ft.) 41.8
Brakes Power-assisted 4-piston front/2-piston rear ventilated disc brakes with Anti-lock Brake System (ABS) with Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD) and Brake Assist [1]
Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) [2] Standard
Traction Control Standard
Active Traction Control Available (4WD model) (click here to see A-TRAC in action)

local toyota guys said this might be the one with different motor and body styles, but would not confirm anything.

That's certainly ugly and is not a V8!!

...and based on the prado platform

the toyota rep would not give direct answers but he said it 'may' be a 6.2L V8 turbo diesel.
Still, IFS is not cool

but I can see me rolling around Tokoyo in one of these running 44's and exo

OISTA wrote:the toyota rep would not give direct answers but he said it 'may' be a 6.2L V8 turbo diesel.
Still, IFS is not cool

I'd love to think that we'll get a TT 6.2V8, however the modern Japanese trend seems to be towards turbocharged and intercooled multivalve smaller displacement engines to meet emissions, rather than bigger displacement ones. Have a look at the 2.5L TDI in the Pathfinder / Navara putting out over 400Nm.

And if conservative Toyota did release such an animal, it would come out first in other parts of the world and Lexus models here first, before being mainstream - and then we couldn't afford to buy it anyhow.

But I really do hope I'm proven wrong!!!

Oista,

The FJ cruiser from the states was supposed to come here. I talked to Jogn Conomos personally at a private work function earlier this year and I brought up this particular subject. His response was that Toyota Australia pushed very hard to try and get the FJ Cruiser here as the original FJ has a strong and reliable heritage here ever since the building of the Snowy Mountain Hydro scheme (which is when they were brought in to Australia).

The reasoning we didnt get it here is because for us to get it, we need to justify the building of right hand drive models via the number that we sell, and our market here is too small to justify building it. Toyota Australia lobbied Japan and England to convince them to have it, because if we could get them to sign up to it, it would be a goer, but they wouldnt have a bar of it, saying something like there wouldnt be a market for them in England and Japan.

Anyway, hoped that helped ya, and will let you know as soon as I hear more on fourby topics.

Max.

Cheers Max

Good info to find out

I heard 550ish Nm from the twin turbo version, around 5.2 lt, and the troopy to be a 4 door live axle, and ute same, for mines market, now current model doesnt meet workplace safety with sideways seating.

v config allows shorter bonnet, and more cabin space for same vehicle length.

oi max u seem like a reliable sorce of info!!!!! ya gotta see if there is any chance of the lux's goin back to a solid front end lol i think now we all wanna know if the crusier utes and troopy's are gonna be ifs or not????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Tyler,

like I said, as soon as I find more info and maybe a sneak pic, I let you guys know, but thats all I know bout now.

Personally in my own opinion, as good as they are offroad, I dont see toyota going live axle at the front again, other than possibly the new cruiser utes, as most of the 4x4's sold these day are kept and used on the black-top, something like 75-80% of the sold fourbies never see a gravel road, let alone mud and bumpy hills etc.

Shame really for us blokes who want to explore this country in a fun and adventurous way.

I was talking to my brother today..
he's in the army and has been loading supplies up in darwin for the last 3 weeks for the east timor efforts.
he told me that he was loading onto the ships brand new cruisers that had a 'heap of power' and a decal on the rear saying '3700 bi-turbo'
he popped the hood and sure enough, twin turbo diesel V8.
they were for the federal coppers that are going to timor, they had all the light racks and stuff for the coppers but also had in dash sat-nav (not sure if it was aftermarket or not?)

so my guess is that there will be a 3.7 litre twin turbo v8 diesel released in the not too distant future.

just thought i'd relay what he saw first hand. i'm bummed he didnt take a pic with his phone! apparently they look pretty much like the 78/9 series.

smithie