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ARB's Air Locker or TJM's Pro-Locker??
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:01 pm
by Patrolguy
Hi All.
What do you guys think and what do or would you use and why??
ARB's Air Locker or TJM's Pro-Locker??
Pro-Locker only $5 more and I have found out that you can fit it up to the ARB compressor's.
Air Locker has O-rings that can/will wear out and the Pro-Locker has no O-rings ect.
Have always been going to get a Air Locker buy now thinking Pro-Locker.
Will be for the front of GU 3.0TDi.
Thanks.
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:19 pm
by Micka
Pro Locker.
For the reasons that you have stated...and its stronger.
Micka
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:05 pm
by HSV Rangie
PRO LOCKER
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:17 pm
by GRINCH
if the prolocker has no o rings what do they use instead?
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:53 pm
by chunderlicious
but does the prolocker still make that tuff noise when u turn em off? thats the important bit
wondering the same myself as im looking into one for my front diff. ive been told by a mate of the designer that they used a cheaper stainless locking pin instead of a high tensile pin to make it contend with the air locker.... also said he was suprised no pins had broken on them
Evan
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:53 pm
by Patrolguy
Not to sure on what they use but I have been told that it is a sealed unit and that it works on a carrier set up.
Someone else maybe able to explain more???
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:59 pm
by bogged
Having looked at one at TJM Seaford, the mech for sliding the gear across (like a shift fork, where it only sits on about 10-20mm of the gear it slides across) to me looks a little weak.
Maybe worth looking at one, but if its the same as the other macnamara ones, it should be fine.
Either will be ok, but ARB are fairly well proven over time.
diff locks
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:23 pm
by MUD000
ARB
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:29 pm
by InSanE
i think they will need to be tested for a few more years to see if they are going to get the good rep of arb air lockers atleast u know they are reliable.
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:46 pm
by Nev
InSanE wrote:i think they will need to be tested for a few more years to see if they are going to get the good rep of arb air lockers atleast u know they are reliable.
i think this is the main point i would make my decision on but hey....somebodies gotta be the guinea pig
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:51 pm
by derek06
prolockers are the way to go. I run them in the front and rear of my GU ute. A mate of mine as worked on testing the arb locker verse the tjm prolocker and the prolocker come out the best by far. yes you can run them off the arb compressor and yes they make the noises when you turn them on and off. Go the mighty Patrols
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:21 pm
by Beastmavster
Hasnt the TJM prolocker pretty much been tested for as long as the ARB as a McNamara anyway?
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:24 pm
by derek06
I'm not sure on that one
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 6:51 pm
by DaveS3
The prolocker is 'Similar' to JacMacs Airlocker which has been around forever in LRs and other makes.
So yes is a proven item.
Dave.
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:01 pm
by Patrolguy
Yeah that is the case with McNamara by the sounds of things.
The Pro-Locker is based on the MaNamara Locker. Only difference is McNamara hand makes his Locker's and TJM's are machine made (therefore cheaper) or made from a mould if you know what I mean.
Pro-Locker looks to be stronger in the workings???
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:01 pm
by bastard
I waited over 6 months for a pro locker and every week was told next week next week in the end got the shits and went the arb.Happy so far but when i priced them the pro locker was about 300dollars dearer as the switches and bits were not included in the locker price this was all extra.I bought an rd23 locker and 1 paid 1300 for the locker and the arb pump that pumps up the tyres as well,i dropped of the centre and was charged 120 to fit it.
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:18 pm
by Shadow
derek06 wrote:prolockers are the way to go. I run them in the front and rear of my GU ute. A mate of mine as worked on testing the arb locker verse the tjm prolocker and the prolocker come out the best by far. yes you can run them off the arb compressor and yes they make the noises when you turn them on and off. Go the mighty Patrols
how can you say its the best by far
an air locker either works or doesnt work
breaks or doesnt break
why is it the best by far? did the ARB break whilst the TJM didnt?
????
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:43 pm
by sir_camel
Shadow wrote:derek06 wrote:prolockers are the way to go. I run them in the front and rear of my GU ute. A mate of mine as worked on testing the arb locker verse the tjm prolocker and the prolocker come out the best by far. yes you can run them off the arb compressor and yes they make the noises when you turn them on and off. Go the mighty Patrols
how can you say its the best by far
an air locker either works or doesnt work
breaks or doesnt break
why is it the best by far? did the ARB break whilst the TJM didnt?
????
I thought exactly the same
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:58 pm
by BigQQQie
ask yourself
How long have Air Lockers been around??????
How long have Prolockers been around??????
What do 94% run in their trucks?????????
i know which one i would chose!!!!!!!
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:09 pm
by Patrolguy
[quote="BigQQQie"]ask yourself
How long have Air Lockers been around??????
How long have Prolockers been around??????
What do 94% run in their trucks?????????
i know which one i would chose!!!!!!![/quote]
How long have Prolockers been around?????? ABOUT 25 YEARS UNDER THE MCNAMARA NAME!!!!!!!!!
HAVE A LOOK.
http://www.mcnamaradiffs.com.au/products.html
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:13 pm
by Shadow
Patrolguy wrote:BigQQQie wrote:ask yourself
How long have Air Lockers been around??????
How long have Prolockers been around??????
What do 94% run in their trucks?????????
i know which one i would chose!!!!!!!
How long have Prolockers been around?????? ABOUT 25 YEARS UNDER THE MCNAMARA NAME!!!!!!!!!
HAVE A LOOK.
http://www.mcnamaradiffs.com.au/products.html
same could be said about the chinese spanners bunnings sells, its the same design as used for 25 years, but its still shit. All comes down to the quality control during production.
Just because the prolocker is based heavily on a mcnamara doesnt make it a mcnamara locker, or as good/strong as one.
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:50 pm
by ISUZUROVER
Shadow wrote:Patrolguy wrote:BigQQQie wrote:ask yourself
How long have Air Lockers been around??????
How long have Prolockers been around??????
What do 94% run in their trucks?????????
i know which one i would chose!!!!!!!
How long have Prolockers been around?????? ABOUT 25 YEARS UNDER THE MCNAMARA NAME!!!!!!!!!
HAVE A LOOK.
http://www.mcnamaradiffs.com.au/products.html
same could be said about the chinese spanners bunnings sells, its the same design as used for 25 years, but its still shit. All comes down to the quality control during production.
Just because the prolocker is based heavily on a mcnamara doesnt make it a mcnamara locker, or as good/strong as one.
AFAIK the pro-locker is ALMOST IDENTICAL to the macnamara locker, not "heavily based". So it is a proven design, that has been around a long time.
BTW - the Pro-Locker has a better method of operation, so if it is as strong as the ARB (don't see why it wouldn't be) then it should be more reliable.
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:00 pm
by RUFF
Macnamara is still making the pro locker for TJM so dont worry about quality. Its been around for as long as ARB has and has just as good a reputation. Fact is the biggest problem with ARB lockers is that the seals do leak from time to time. From either improper fittment,contamination or just plain worn out. But the Pro Locker has no seals to have these problems.
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:11 pm
by derek06
so then if the prolockers aren't better then the arb locker so why is it then that a lot of the guys that race in the winch challenges and the outback challenge and so on are switching from arb lockers to the prolockers I would say that that is telling you something about which locker is better. I don't think that the lockers can be tested any better then in those events. and for the people waiting for the prolocker be patient they are coming
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:21 pm
by antt
cause they're sponsored....?
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:36 pm
by Patrolguy
Thanks for all the info guys!!
Yes I agree with antt re "cause they're sponsored....?". Unfortunately you can not look at the competing trucks for this reason. Hopefully TJM will sponsor a truck with PRO-LOCKER soon???
Looks like the TJM Pro-Locker with ARB Compressor (locker activation only) maybe the go.
Been a ARB man for so long but times change!!
PS: Notice how many Brissy guys replying.
Thanks all (KEEP YOUR THOUGHTS COMING)
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:19 pm
by DIDZ
Arb Air-Lockers - Cause I have them & they MUST be the Best.. Go's for the rest of the reply's to this post but I'm Being Honest
Hope your Happy with what you chose..
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:49 pm
by bogged
antt wrote:cause they're sponsored....?
we have a winner!
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:03 pm
by RUFF
antt wrote:cause they're sponsored....?
As far as i know there is only one vehicle competing in Australia that is outright sponsored by Pro Locker. Other than that TJM(the company not a franchise) Dont sponsor many vehicles at all.
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:15 pm
by ISUZUROVER
RUFF wrote:antt wrote:cause they're sponsored....?
As far as i know there is only one vehicle competing in Australia that is outright sponsored by Pro Locker. Other than that TJM(the company not a franchise) Dont sponsor many vehicles at all.
Are you talking about Laurie Sternbeck (sp?) and his GQ? He is sponsored by TJM isn't he?
But I suppose that is a reason to buy ARB - the fact that they seem to sponsor a lot of events and competitors.