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PVC pipe creations- cheapest fittings?
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:14 pm
by ash_on_mtb
I'm doing a 3 pipe tank in the place of a spare under the back of the 'runner, and would like to know where people have found the cheapest fittings? Somewhere like Enzed/Pirtek, or more of a water place, like WaterPro's or even Bunnings...?
I need some taps, a screw off breather, and various elbows and tubing to seal and join the 3 tanks into one...
Suggestions and experiences?
thanks.
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:42 pm
by daveo
is this for drinking water? if so then u may want to reconsider. dont quote me but i read on here a while ago that PVC leaches nasty chemicals, thus should not be used for drinking water. In house hold applications copper pipe is used for drinking water and PVC for drains etc.
For water storage i picked up a poly water tank form TJM Coopers Plains in bris, about 80-90 liters and it sits up under my tray nicely. Came with threaded barbs for filler outlet and breather. Juat went down to pirtek and got some hose and a tap and to Camec and got a 12v water pump. works a treat. If u want pics pm me with your email address. The tank was maybe $100 adn the fittings and pump another 100. Using a tank will also be a more efficient use of space and it would not fracture like PVC can.
Again dont quote me on the toxic stuff, just what i read on here when researching how to solve my water storage issues.
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:54 pm
by ash_on_mtb
nah, its just for 'spare' water, got a SS tank behind the seats for potable water. Its more for the other uses of water, like cleaning etc.
How much did you pay for the pump? I hadn't thought of that, simple as it may be. I had grandios plans of plumbing air into it to pressurise it, maybe get some Karcher action out of it... I've a bilge pump in the boat and was thinking of a submersible pump like that, but an in line pump would work much better of course!!
hmm, the plan thickens... And the plot grows.
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:03 pm
by just cruizin'
go to Camec they have everything you need for reasonable prices.
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:46 pm
by GRINCH
plumping supply store. i did one a few years ago, didnt work very well, all the joins cracked the glue and it started leacking,ended up throwing it in the bin and brought a plastic caravan tank.
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:43 pm
by disco-damo
PVC isn't much good if it's moved all the time as it does get very brittle, I use it at work all the time.
It's best for use under ground where it doesnt get disturbed.
Try reese plumbing if you still want to give it a go.
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:58 pm
by Daisy
try irrigation shops...
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:21 pm
by shakes
bunnings can be good
quite often you can screw together half a dozen fittings and they only get scanned through as one
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:26 pm
by Mulisha
shakes wrote:bunnings can be good
quite often you can screw together half a dozen fittings and they only get scanned through as one
LMAO that's the way
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:25 pm
by sjp
gaud i'd better get rid of my 90mm pvc storm water pipes that go to my water tanks (anybody got aprice on stainless)hate to think what in my bod after 10 yrs drinking the rainwater
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:02 pm
by Shadow
daveo wrote:is this for drinking water? if so then u may want to reconsider. dont quote me but i read on here a while ago that PVC leaches nasty chemicals, thus should not be used for drinking water. In house hold applications copper pipe is used for drinking water and PVC for drains etc.
PVC is non toxic unless it is mixed with a plastisizer to make it soft. The pipes used in houses etc are not toxic.
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:17 pm
by bru21
we make a 5" square pvc extrusion that is tin stabalized and food contact approved. It comes with a 50 year full sun warrenty and has matching end caps. Cost is $19 metre (have to work out retail as this is not normally used for this application) off the top of my head, is gloss white and will not become brittle. It is 4-5mm thick too end caps are slightly prymid like in shape.
all pvc is non toxic in reality as the stabilizers are bound into the material and leaching out is so small its safe. Plasticized pvc is also safe as long as it is done using DOP, dinp, didp, or esbo etc as they are non hazardous and well tested. this is a link to our site
www.polvin.com.au
The Brighton 2005 Conference Sustainability of PVC:
This conference was a major gathering of the professionals in the PVC production and processing industry in Europe. During this conference the sustainability of PVC was discussed and papers put forward.
The EU policy and investigation is summarised as follows:
7 years of EU investigations have highlighted over 50 years of safe PVC usage. No finding has been made to justify any discrimination against PVC.
Dioxin emissions at incinerators were demonstrated not to be due to PVC waste.
The outcome of all the Phthalate plasticiser assessments, all issues were solved.
These studies are regarded as the most comprehensive compilation of toxicological, ecotox and exposure data available. Phthalates are amongst the most thoroughly researched substances in the world.
DINP and DIDP now clearly do not pose a risk to any sector of the population via any exposure scenario.
Most recent exposure and Tox data for DEHP shows many of the original "supposed" risks simply do not exist.
Phthalates have little impact on human health and should continue to be used in all applications ratified in the EU assessments.
EU policy was thus stated:
No restriction on PVC in any application
PVC usage is growing in the EU and at a global level, and will continue to do so. When PVC is compared to all alternatives on the basis of life cycle analysis, PVC is now either equivalent to alternatives or the most favourable solution.
Personally I would use jerry cans as they are convient and easy to clean, I had a pvc tank on my truck when I bought it and it was full of crap but the ends were glued on and it was feral so i binned it.
cheers Bru
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:57 am
by ash_on_mtb
awesome, PVC a go-go!
And we are away on another next to zero budget project
Thanks for all the replys. Camec have all the stuff, you're right. But they want money before they'll give me anything, so thats just not in my plan so much....
Thanks for all the info on PVC, I was quite uncertain about it, but thats close enough to a qualified answer for me, I've still got an SS tank, but at least I can use this occasionally if I have to.
cheers all.
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:03 pm
by bru21
ash_on_mtb wrote:
Thanks for all the info on PVC, I was quite uncertain about it, but thats close enough to a qualified answer for me,
cheers all.
That is a qualified answer lol, I work as a lab tech at polvin
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:28 pm
by just cruizin'
ash_on_mtb wrote:awesome, PVC a go-go!
Camec have all the stuff, you're right. But they want money before they'll give me anything, so thats just not in my plan so much....
Dam, where do you shop to give you stuff for no money, do you get five finger discounts or what, no offence.
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:09 pm
by ash_on_mtb
like anyone else, the 'ol shed is a remarkable resource... Pull something apart to make something else...
And being a wesfarmers shareholder, please don't tell me what you appropriate from Bunnings
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:30 pm
by just cruizin'
ash_on_mtb wrote:like anyone else, the 'ol shed is a remarkable resource... Pull something apart to make something else...
And being a wesfarmers shareholder, please don't tell me what you appropriate from Bunnings
Bunnings give me the shiats, don't even stock metric nuts and bolts, biggest bunch of ripoff merchants. I'm surprized they don't charge you a dollar to get into their shops. About the only good thing is the kids gum boots for $1 or 2, thought that was good for my little girl camping.
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:42 pm
by TuffRR
just cruizin' wrote:[
I'm surprized they don't charge you a dollar to get into their shops.
They do, its just you get a free sausage in bread.
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:47 pm
by thomo.in.a.gq
just cruizin' wrote:
Bunnings give me the shiats.......
About the only good thing is the kids gum boots for $1 or 2, thought that was good for my little girl camping.
The only other good thing is the hangover curing sausage sizzles out the front.......
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 8:05 pm
by munga
which yew can even get on weekdays
Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:30 am
by Gruntahunta
I had a 3 pipe PVC tank made out of 100mm stormwater pipe under the tray of my hilux for about 8 years. I cut out 2 pieces of 3x2 hardwood so the pipes sat in it neatly at each end and then sat them on the steel bars under the tray. I then put some small chain over them individually to hold them down firm and i never had any problems in the whole time i had it. If the water got a bit dodgy, i would throw a litre of bleach in it for a few days and then drain and flush it. I had the filler hose and breather coming out of a screw on cap on the front. All the free ends had screw on caps. Cost me about $50 when i first done it. The filler was just a normal click on hose fitting mounted to the top of the headboard next to the breather.
Hope this helps you out!
Cheers.................Pete!