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How can I tell how lifted my GQ is?

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:17 pm
by dansedgli
I bought my SWB Maverick and it already had a suspension and body lift and 32 inch Mud terrains.

What is the easiest way to determine how much higher than stock it is?

I hear people talking about needing a certain amount of lift before fitting a certain size tyre and I want to know what size tyres Ill be able to fit.

Does a stocker have small blocks where the bodylift is or does the cab sit straight onto the chassis? What size are the factory blocks if there is any?

Thanks again,
Dan

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:21 pm
by dansedgli
This is it the day I bought it, before I took it out to where there was mud :armsup:


Image

Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:26 pm
by rover1
i'd guess at 2"body, 2" spring.

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:38 am
by dansedgli
Thats what Im guessing at as well.

It has tough dog shocks and aftermarket springs as well.

Do you think I will be able to cram 35's under the guards? With or without cutting?

Re: How can I tell how lifted my GQ is?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:59 am
by chimpboy
dansedgli wrote:I bought my SWB Maverick and it already had a suspension and body lift and 32 inch Mud terrains.

What is the easiest way to determine how much higher than stock it is?

I hear people talking about needing a certain amount of lift before fitting a certain size tyre and I want to know what size tyres Ill be able to fit.

Does a stocker have small blocks where the bodylift is or does the cab sit straight onto the chassis? What size are the factory blocks if there is any?

Thanks again,
Dan
With no body lift, you wouldn't have more than 12-15mm between the top of the chassis and the floor of the car (just under where you're sitting.)

Any more than that is body lift.

Looking at the photo, I think 35s might be a bit of a squeeze if those are 32s on it now.

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:55 am
by Madmac
rover1 wrote:i'd guess at 2"body, 2" spring.
id agree with that

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:33 am
by turps
To work out how much spring lift you have you can measure the distance betwen the bumpstops. Only problem is I cant remember what this distance is from new. Some one might remember. I think Bazzel posted the distance.

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:25 pm
by bogged
turps wrote:To work out how much spring lift you have you can measure the distance betwen the bumpstops. Only problem is I cant remember what this distance is from new. Some one might remember. I think Bazzel posted the distance.
bazzle :P alias Grimace Merc sports car driver
yea its been posted few times in the past.

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:40 pm
by turps
bogged wrote:
turps wrote:To work out how much spring lift you have you can measure the distance betwen the bumpstops. Only problem is I cant remember what this distance is from new. Some one might remember. I think Bazzel posted the distance.
bazzle :P alias . Merc sports car driver
yea its been posted few times in the past.
Yer thats the bloke. wierdo merc driver now. And only offroading I heard he was doing was in the wifes disco.

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:57 pm
by MyGQ
that looks like mine, and mine is 2" sus and 2" body

I get 35 tyres under mine

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:59 pm
by bowtie landie
A standard GQ measures (approximately) 740mm from the metal lip on the guard (not the flare) to the bottom of a 15" rim (or 752mm with 16" rims) This is the same front & rear.

35s won't fit under a 2+2 nor a 3+2 - not if you plan to get full articulation.

Peter K.

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:37 pm
by turps
bowtie landie wrote:A standard GQ measures (approximately) 740mm from the metal lip on the guard (not the flare) to the bottom of a 15" rim (or 752mm with 16" rims) This is the same front & rear.

35s won't fit under a 2+2 nor a 3+2 - not if you plan to get full articulation.

Peter K.
Peter we have this discussion every week. Yes 35"s will fit on a 2+2 set up. Will they rub YES. Will 31's Rub on a car with a 6,7,8" lift YES they will. Unless the bumpstops are extended.
Some people get away with just removing the metal mudflaps (which I did). Others have to cut the gaurds a little. I think I had the lowest car with 35's. AS it only had a 2"BL and the susp was very old OME 40mm lift. It only started hitting the guards when all the bushes started to flog out. andthe axle moved around abit.

Also there is a slight difference in the guards from SWB to LWB.

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:42 pm
by dansedgli
Thanks guys. Great info.

With the 32's I have never scrubbed anywhere as far as I know. Ive been up (or attempted :P) every track I can find.

I have to say I dont really see a huge need to get full articulation in the tracks that I have visited. The clearance would be most handy getting through large bog holes or up hills where the ruts are so deep that I diff out and get stuck.

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:53 pm
by jessie928
you have more than 2" of bodylift on that

looks more like 3" maybe even a bit more

look at the gap between the bumpers and the body, its more than 2"

Jes

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:34 pm
by BigMav
jessie928 wrote:you have more than 2" of bodylift on that

looks more like 3" maybe even a bit more

look at the gap between the bumpers and the body, its more than 2"

Jes
you beat me to it. It definitely looks more like 3 judging from the rear bumper.

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:12 pm
by Beastmavster
2+2 at least.

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:25 pm
by DanielS
hey dansadgli can you measure the body lift blocks? that will sort your amount of body lift out anyway.

To look at the spring lift isnt much though.

Mi2c

Daniels

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:48 pm
by MQ080
turps wrote:Peter we have this discussion every week. Yes 35"s will fit....
:rofl:

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:47 pm
by dansedgli
jessie928 wrote:you have more than 2" of bodylift on that

looks more like 3" maybe even a bit more

look at the gap between the bumpers and the body, its more than 2"

Jes
Spot on mate, the blocks are 3 inch.

The car is running Tough dog shocks but the springs are black. Is it possible it still has standard springs in it or is it too high?

I just removed the bullbar, gained heaps more clearance! Only 4 flimsy little bolts were holding it on, all 4 were loose! :shock:

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 9:19 pm
by BigMav
Is that an EFS shock I can see. If it is and the springs are black I would say they are EFS springs also. My EFS suspension is all black also. I think Carrols make the springs.

Re: How can I tell how lifted my GQ is?

Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:15 pm
by liftkit8
dansedgli wrote: I hear people talking about needing a certain amount of lift before fitting a certain size tyre and I want to know what size tyres Ill be able to fit.

Dan
you can run 37s but they will scrub. :roll:

Re: How can I tell how lifted my GQ is?

Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 9:16 am
by dansedgli
liftkit8 wrote:
dansedgli wrote: I hear people talking about needing a certain amount of lift before fitting a certain size tyre and I want to know what size tyres Ill be able to fit.

Dan
you can run 37s but they will scrub. :roll:
So what can I run where scrubbing will be minimal and I can still have some decent clearance to get up the harder tracks?