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GQ no longer starts
Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:26 pm
by matthewK
it the 88 TB 4.2 carbie
i washed out the engine this morning to get all the power steering oil and crap off after washing i tryed to crank it over it wanted to start but didnt
after opening the distributer cap and removing the roater i discover water all in the points and down inside a bit, after trying to dry it up with towls and the old fan heater in there for 2-3 hours i managed to dry up a fair bit, she turn over but still wont start up ,
as i was trying to turn it over i notice the water evaperating off the lil white block next to the coil is this normal?
also could it be that the coil has finally shit it self????
any idea would be helpfull
thanks
matt
Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:40 pm
by RockyF75
leave it overnight and hope it dries out
I drowned my old datto 2wd in a bog hole and it was fun trying to start it/keepit running for the next 4hrs

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:04 pm
by beretta
WD40, give ita good spray, it will help a bit.
Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:15 pm
by ozy1
i agree with Beretta, bit of WD40 will help dissapate the water,
also have you checked the obvious like spark, does it have one, is it strong or weak, if its weak try some Aero start/start ya bastard, if the spark is weak and may be the casue of it not running, keep spraying start ya bastard until it burns off all the water,
not sure in the steam off the White block, which i believe is like a resistor, but i do believe they get warm/hot, so steam might be common if wet,
Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:31 pm
by cloughy
Its a ballast resistor, spray everything with CRC, WD40 , inox whatever, inside dizzy outside around plugs leads connection etc, if it don't go you've farked it, but it should gogo, not the ballast resistor while its hot cause you might get a fright
Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:50 pm
by matthewK
yeah the old man got off the phone to me just before he also reacons crc, wd40 or carbie spray,
i did go through the spark plug and cleaned them up
from what you guy are saying it look like just water in points and dissy
yeah the resistor never seen it steam like that before was new to me
i will go out and buy some WD40 and aero star
thanks guys youve helped a great deal i just prefer to drive the patrol over the 60 seires it just me
Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:53 pm
by ozy1
you may only need aero start if you have a weak spark, id check the spark before spending money on aero start, but definatly geive evrything a squirt with WD40 or similar,
but aero start does come in hand for re setting tyre beads,
Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:26 pm
by chimpboy
99% chance it will run again when it's dry without you doing anything or spending a cent.
Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:38 pm
by cloughy
ozy1 wrote:
but aero start does come in hand for re setting tyre beads,
I've heard the rumour but never seen it done successfully, tried to reset a banschee rear tyre with lighter fluid, caue someone reckoned it would work, i never believed it and now i know why

Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:44 pm
by chimpboy
cloughy wrote:ozy1 wrote:
but aero start does come in hand for re setting tyre beads,
I've heard the rumour but never seen it done successfully, tried to reset a banschee rear tyre with lighter fluid, caue someone reckoned it would work, i never believed it and now i know why

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 3290969246
I'd never even heard of this before, but faaark me, check out the video. Text says: "If you have a tire on a rim that does not have a leak, but has lost a bead. Get some starter fluid, brake cleaner, or carb cleaner. Spray it in the tire . 5-7 seconds should be enough. Now light a match or rag and throw it at the fluid you sprayed in. After it seats, quickly inflate the tire."
Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:18 pm
by cloughy
Stoopid firewall

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 1:42 am
by Beastmavster
nice.....
Have to remember that trick when im stuck in the middle of nowhere and intend starting a 200,000 hectare bushfire.....
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:20 am
by Madmac
WD40 is your friend, i wash my motor after every outing, it usually wont start afterwards, a quick spray of wd40 does the trick everytime
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:40 am
by G_loomis
Its no woner I love my diesel
But the CRC, WD40 thing is what I would do too!
Off topic slightly...but does anyone know why WD40 is called WD40?
the WD stands for "water displacement" and the formula that is sold today is the 40th attempt of getting it right! So in saying that its lucky it didnt take them longer to figure it out....else we could be all using WD2678930

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:47 am
by OISTA
G_loomis wrote: WD2678930
It's got a ring to it.

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:12 pm
by matthewK
arfternoon boys
i went off this morning got some wd40 and start ya barstard, i cleaned out the distributer ripped it all out and cleaned each part put it all back in and left a gap of 55tho on the points, she turns over but still dosent fire
any ideas?
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:24 pm
by badger
does it actually have spark?
put a screw driver in the end of a lead n get a mate to hold it:P
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:47 pm
by matthewK
i dont think it dose even with a weak spark somthing should of happerned when i spray that aero start into it
i used my light tester on the coil and the light was some what dimmmm
with the ignition turn on
as im by my self i really cant do much just need ideas i guess
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:52 pm
by simkell
by pass your balist resister with a piece of wire. this will eliminate the resister.
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:14 pm
by matthewK
ok i tested the points from positive batry terminal to negative coil the tester light flashes when turning it over,
i manage to set up the coil so i could test on my own and found there is a spark arking to the engine so i now know the coil and points are working
so it has to be somthing with the distributor
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:44 pm
by Guy
matthewK wrote:ok i tested the points from positive batry terminal to negative coil the tester light flashes when turning it over,
i manage to set up the coil so i could test on my own and found there is a spark arking to the engine so i now know the coil and points are working
so it has to be somthing with the distributor
How much wd did you use ? A light spray is all that is needed ..
Also find yourself some di-electric grease (a silicon based grease). Use it round your plug leads around you Dizzy cap etc, will help keep water out in future.
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:52 pm
by matthewK
thats why i ripped it appart to clean it out and dry it up i flooded it stupid me ,
now its all clean im slowly going back through it to see whats going on
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 6:52 pm
by cloughy
simkell wrote:by pass your balist resister with a piece of wire. this will eliminate the resister.
Why?? it bypasses anyway when cranking
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:16 pm
by matthewK
im just about given up on it i think ,
might need a mobile machnic to come look at it iv tryed everything,
iv ripped out the distributor, cleaned it out as best i can put it all back, set points, even check with a light tester both points and coil both work cylinder 1 and 2 i have tested for spark and they both have one
i even set cylinder 1 at the top and set the distributor so points were slightly open
im fucken lost now
matt
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:21 pm
by RockyF75
matthewK wrote:im just about given up on it i think ,
might need a mobile machnic to come look at it iv tryed everything,
iv ripped out the distributor, cleaned it out as best i can put it all back, set points, even check with a light tester both points and coil both work cylinder 1 and 2 i have tested for spark and they both have one
i even set cylinder 1 at the top and set the distributor so points were slightly open
im ***** lost now
matt
you with NRMA?
"Hello operator, my car wont start I dont know whats wrong come and fix it"

Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:39 pm
by ozy1
so even the aero start wont fire her up hey? does the aero start make any difference wh8ile cranking?
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:48 pm
by not not
If you pulled the dizzy out then put it back in are you sure you didnt put it in 180Degree out?
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:50 pm
by matthewK
ladys and gents after consouling with god - can and brother
THE BEAST now once againt lives on <fuck yeah
Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 10:59 pm
by chops
what was wrong with it?
what did you do to fix?
Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:01 am
by matthewK
wellllll after sitting down for a while away from the 4by i got to thinking
only 3 things could be wrong feul, timing, spark, now i know it was getting pleanty of feul and tested for a spark , and like the old man said timing,
i went back to the points i have it set at 50tho i had it set at 55tho still didnt work right, so i used a optus recharge card and set the gap,
then slowly moved the distributor until the bastard started,
when it started a shit load of smoke came out

with a bit of water
just when i nearly gave up just needed to walk away for a few and let things tinker in the mind a bit
