Outer Limits 4x4 Board

So as the topic says, and those who run it what do you think of it?
Looking into it for my Rangie and was after some hands on opinions.
Thanks Damien

So i guess know one is!

I was going to have it fitted to my 80 series.Got quotes etc and I was happy to try something different.That was untill I contacted my insurance company and they wouldnt cover the vehicle if I fitted it so fitted air lockers once again.

dubs wrote:That was untill I contacted my insurance company and they wouldnt cover the vehicle if I fitted it

??? What's their excuse?

-Scott- wrote:

dubs wrote:That was untill I contacted my insurance company and they wouldnt cover the vehicle if I fitted it

??? What's their excuse?

mods to brake system?

What if it was engineered?
Its ADR approved isn't it?

I can understand that mods to brake system would make an insurance company nervous, but I would expect engineering approval to be feasible. After all, the system is designed primarily to increase brake pressure, not reduce it.

I don't know if it's ADR approved - I imagine that's HUGE dollars.

Scott

-Scott- wrote:I can understand that mods to brake system would make an insurance company nervous, but I would expect engineering approval to be feasible. After all, the system is designed primarily to increase brake pressure, not reduce it.

I don't know if it's ADR approved - I imagine that's HUGE dollars.

Scott

but its making the brakes apply harder on one side than the other, wouldnt be very pretty if it all went to s--t pulling up at 100km/h

GRINCH wrote:

-Scott- wrote:I can understand that mods to brake system would make an insurance company nervous, but I would expect engineering approval to be feasible. After all, the system is designed primarily to increase brake pressure, not reduce it.

I don't know if it's ADR approved - I imagine that's HUGE dollars.

Scott

but its making the brakes apply harder on one side than the other, wouldnt be very pretty if it all went to s--t pulling up at 100km/h

Not pretty, but exciting!

Point taken.

Scott

from memory it is only enabled in low range - at least that was my understanding,

I had a protoype on my 2 door and my 4 door rangie, ran really well was perfect for me, could drive the cross up track easily and get a hell of a lot further than I could with out it. It meant I didn't have to upgrade my axles (10 spline rover) etc

I am waiting for the new model, they sold my old one .....

Works really well and is perfect for me and cheaper than any other option as arb = new axles

Tom

sam at overkill had it on one of his suzuki's

have you actually contacted Haultech and spoken to anyone regarding this system, how it works and it's legalities?

Chris

my mate has factory traction control on his defender90 , all i can say is that does not seem to work that well.

The wheels that were in the air were still spinning

U cant beat diff locks

dinos4x4 wrote:my mate has factory traction control on his defender90 , all i can say is that does not seem to work that well.

The wheels that were in the air were still spinning

U cant beat diff locks

Dude, do you even know who Haultech is ?

Charles accidently left his traction control on in his Rangie and didn't notice it was on until he got home but his was a prototype, they may have fitted safety devices by now. Charles must have kept his Rangie under control and not spun his wheels in each gear, otherwise he may have noticed.

dino's4x4, what mad cruiser meant to say was the haultech traction control is nothing like a factory traction control as it actually really does work. Do a search and read about the Haultech tracton control and you will see what we mean.

4WD Stuff wrote: the haultech traction control is nothing like a factory traction control as it actually really does work.

I beg to differ about the factory ETC.

Chuck flogged my Defender around the hallowed grounds of Haultech for over an hour testing out the factory ETC. The only real difference noticeable was that the factory ETC over heated and stopped working, whereas the HTC kept going. My Defender went everywhere it was pointed and Chuck told me that it would not be worth the $$ to change it over.

Traction control is not a locker...but it is the next best thing. You need to think about wheel placement in order to keep moving.


Micka

Micka wrote:

4WD Stuff wrote: the haultech traction control is nothing like a factory traction control as it actually really does work.

Traction control is not a locker...but it is the next best thing. You need to think about wheel placement in order to keep moving.


Micka

Also easier on CV's and axles (ie stock setup)

Daisy wrote:

Micka wrote:

4WD Stuff wrote: the haultech traction control is nothing like a factory traction control as it actually really does work.

Traction control is not a locker...but it is the next best thing. You need to think about wheel placement in order to keep moving.


Micka

Also easier on CV's and axles (ie stock setup)

Bingo !

dinos4x4 wrote:
The wheels that were in the air were still spinning

Did he drive past/through the obstacle ?

Traction Control will not stop the wheels in the air spinning, it uses that as a reference to what is happening and then uses braking to drive the diff

Tom

Daisy wrote:

Micka wrote:

4WD Stuff wrote: the haultech traction control is nothing like a factory traction control as it actually really does work.

Traction control is not a locker...but it is the next best thing. You need to think about wheel placement in order to keep moving.


Micka

Also easier on CV's and axles (ie stock setup)

And the HTC is easier on CVs and axels than the factory ETC. One thing I noticed while Chuck was stuffing about was that the power redistribution was far, far smoother with the HTC than the Rover ETC.


Micka

I'd love to get this on my Suzuki.
Their website has said TC is 'coming soon' for at least a year now...

Then pic up the phone and youll get all the info you need.

I'm still waiting on my reply email with all the info Chuck said he would send to me, must be busy, know stress

Damien,

I've spoken to them earlier on in the year, and I'm waiting to do a few other necessary changes to the RR then I'll be beating a path to their door ASAP. I will be using it as soon as I can. If it works the same as or better than the LR ETC, then it will be what I'm after.
And cheaper than difflocks too.
JC

The main question I have is can it be engineered in NSW?

A12 wrote:The main question I have is can it be engineered in NSW?

I spoke to Charles today about getting it sent to Perth.
He said it can be engineered no probs and has been successfully done, dont know if it has in NSW yet.

All I need is to pay someone $$ near them to take a GV there for measurments etc. so they can make the customised kit ready to send to me.

*MOD EDIT*

The hardest thing is to run some new brake lines. I have just finished installing a new kit into an old defender, and it is simpler than you think. To the price of the kit you need to add some 6mm airline, Some .5mm 3 core flex, a few bits of flat bar to make some brackets, a T piece and some brake line ($46 worth did me). Then you have to borrow a double flairing tool and 3/16 tube bender and you can install it yourself.

The car is still being built so i cannot comment on how it functions yet.

is anyone still running this on their buggies?

Edited Post - you just need to pay someone to take the readings

Tom

Huh? I can't remember what I said different.