Outer Limits 4x4 Board

HI GUYS IM NEW TO THIS FORUM AND AM REALLY ENJOYING THE READ. I HAVE A 99 GU AND HAVE BAUGHT A 3" LIFT KIT. MY QUESTIONS -

1- DO I NEED TO LENGTHEN BRAKELINES OR CAN THEY BE SPACERED?

2- CASTER CORRECTION. DO I NEED IT OR NOT?

3- SWAY BARS, LENGTHEN LINKS OR CHUCK EM?

ANY ADVICE WOULD BE GREAT.

-I didn't lengthen my brake lines but they were at full stretch at the front so it wouldn't hurt doing it.

-I also didn't need to get castor correction nor hav many of my friends. But each vehicle seems to act differently. Just see how it drives. If it doesn't wonder around you'll be right.

-Lengthening your sway bar linkages is a good idea. You'll still get all the travel you can get out of your shocks and it'll hand well on the road still.

ok so `do the swaybar links need to be lengthened by 3" i guess?

mr nismo wrote:ok so `do the swaybar links need to be lengthened by 3" i guess?

Actually, not quite the 3"s.
The arms should end up horizontal to the groundBest to do the lift. nbolt the sway bars at the top and measure how much extra you need in length.
Cut the verticle link and sleeve it so you end up actually strengthening the linkage.

i did the brake lines as when it was up on the hoist at full travel on the shocks there was a bit of tension on them so id say if i didnt i would have torn them by now.

i did castor corection and it drives so much better after it was done..

also i extended the swaybars and its much better on road with them but off road it does limit it a little.
it depends on where the car will be most of the time.. if its mostly off road id say leave them out.
i put mine back in to keep it legal

Just to reiterate what others have said.
I do recommend you get longer sway bar link pins.
You will know if you need castor correction bushes as it will rail road, wander but I think it is worth your while.
For the money I don't think it is worth scrimping with your brakes so longer brake lines are good to do.

Shane

i got castor for 3 on mine, bend front brake line bracket at front but did nnot lengthn but havnt touched sway bars but prob should...................

what brand lift you buy

see if saggs as quick as some other 3's on fourum

my lovells didnt

I wouldnt use any of the available bushes for castor adjustment, because they dont flex as well, and dont wear as well as factory bushes.

For a 3" lift, we have been using a slimline drop box, which improves handling, and sets the castor exactly where we need it for 3-4" and road feel is improved, keeping the arms horizontal, and if running big tyres we set 1 deg neg camber as well, so the vehicle will turn in nicely, as well as an improved steering damper.

For under 3" lift castor correction bearings are a better option we have found.

Sway bars on a wagon with acc arent great standard, but we fit heavier units, and link bars, for the correct height, to keep the vehicle driving nicely.

We have also been doing all rubber brake lines to ss braided ADR approved, as it improves pedal feel, especially wwith our brake upgrade.

Alot depends on your budget, but doing it right should always be the long term outlook IMHO.

i have a 3 inch lift on my 01 wagon. i dont run a front sway bar and have got extended link pins for the back. i didnt get extended brake lines i just bent the mounts on the diffs. i havent got but will be doing very soon castor correction, i believe slim line drop boxes are the way to go to keep your truck flexing. i have heard bad reports about after market bushes

just my 2 c worth

oh yeah and thanks john for the springs and shocks
Josh

now i would have to check with bluey at custom offroad kunda park who did mine with superior alligments kit i think which im sure they said are based on a nissan product....... done about 33 000 kms on them and are perfect.... drives like new and rtc dampner fixed the left pull ......

if your worried see people like abs and brake line extentions are pretty cheap drive in drive out

Bingham wrote:now i would have to check with bluey at custom offroad kunda park who did mine with superior alligments kit i think which im sure they said are based on a nissan product....... done about 33 000 kms on them and are perfect.... drives like new and rtc dampner fixed the left pull ......

if your worried see people like abs and brake line extentions are pretty cheap drive in drive out

hey bingham... What tyres are u running under the 3" lift? When i offset the spring slightly on my rtc to fight some of the left pull, it started chewing out the outside of my front passenger side tyre, really badly...

got the new mtz's 305 70 16 done bout 7k on them and bout 30 on coopersbefore that and no unusual wear..

alll is full steam ahead....

WELL GUYS I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT ALL I NEED IS 1 BRAKE LINE FOR THE REAR???? AND TO PUT THE OLD REAR LINE ON THE FRONT. THE ONLY THING I CANT FIGURE OUT IS I MEASURED THE LINES AND THEY ARE EXACTLY THE SAME LENGTH! SO WHY WOULD I SWAP THEM OVER???
I HAVE ONLY JUST BAUGHT THE CAR SO IS IT POSSIBLE THEY HAVE ALREADY FITTED LONGER LINES??? ARE THEY USUALLY THE SAME LENGTH?

I have heard that some of the brake lines are the same from other people. I doubt it would already have longer brake lines. See if you can jack up the rear end until both your shocks are fully extended and have a look at your brake lines. If they are over stretched then you know what to do.

Slim line drop boxes are the better way to go for a more true castor correction and it does allow you a bit more flex because of the ability to use your Nissan rubber bushes and your leading arms are straighter. However they are clearly visable for all transport authorities and the cops to see. They are engineerable though. Some say they can get you hung up but I don't believe that this is a problem. You may hit them from time to time but they are tuff and I doubt they will stop you making the rock climb. They are closer to the middle if you have a shorty GQ so I don't really think it is as good for a shorty.

Castor plates is out of the question as it is too much of a correction for a 3 inch lift.

You can weld plates over your leading arm brackets and redrill new holes to correct castor so you can run your Nissan bushes. This is hidden and not really noticeable and probably could be considered a repair as the bolts do flog out from time to time

Out of all of all the methods to correct castor for a 3 inch lift most get castor correction bushes. I have not had anyone complain about the castor correction bushes that I provide and lets face it, Nissans aren't renouned for great front flex.

So where did you get your lift kit from?

Toyota80 bushes actually flex better in the front of the patrol, and you can re align the bearings in the king pins to do castor, and camber, while leaving the standard, or fitting 80 bushes to the control arms.

castor bushes are a cheap fix up front, but replacing them often doesnt become one, and they add more stress to the dif housing brackets, even cracking them in some cases, OME make the best correction bush, but we still dont use them.

GOT THEM FROM A FRIEND OF A FRIEND WHO BAUGHT THE KIT AND NEVER FITTED IT! THEY ARE DOBINSON COILS AND SPRINGS AND STILL IN THE BOX!!! NOW FOR THE FUN PART! FIDING OUT WHATS GNNA HAPPEN WHEN I FIT THEM!!!!!!!!!!!

THANKS GUYS FOR ALL YOUR ADVICE!