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Just after some current feedback on these, done the search thing and had a read, but things change with tyres so I'm wondering how people are finding them?

They'll be on a GU touring on outback roads.

Thanks, Paul

what you doing with the swampers???

dean

klrevo wrote:what you doing with the swampers???

dean

Wanna buy em? The STT's are for the old man GU, he's going to Cape York and needs some new rubber for the trip.

i have had them on mine (GQ) for about 30 000 now Paul and they are going strong..have done about 7 tows with a loaded car trailer (2 tonne) to Sydney and back on them as well as a couple of trips to Fraser Island and heaps of offroad work as well....

they worked a treat at Fraser on the soft sand as well

give Ryano at Fourbys a call on 07 38922766.. he will hook you up with some....

dave

love em got them on my 04 gu 285/75/16 great of road mud rocks etc havent tried em on sand yet. on road very good no problems although a bit noisy.. got mine for $316 each

Hmmmm... outback roads and STT's a few people have had issues with hard shale type gravel/gibber and damage.

Having said that I have to say there isn't really two many tyres which go well in those conditions - it's about the toughest test you can give a tyre.

They also had big problems with their ST's in those sorts of conditions, so much that they had to release a different tread compound the ST-C range.



For Cape York I'd say no problems with them, but for outback touring not so sure.

Mine went to Cape York last October, no problems anywhere. But I'm one of those pussies who reduces tyre pressures and travels slow over rough stuff, so a real man might have a different experience.

I'm off across the Simpson in two weeks, coming back via Innamincka. There's some rough roads out that way, so I might have more to report next month. Last time I was out at Innamincka I was on MT/Rs, and had no trouble.

Cheers,

Scott

MTR is 25% thicker in the sidewall, and tougher thean the STT, just come back from a desert trip, one car on STT's with 5 punctures and 2 destroyed tyres, 5 cars on MTR's with 4 punctures between them, one on MTZ's with 2 punctures, 2 on Pro comps with no punctures.

This is pretty much what we see in general, taking alot of vehicles away [270 odd in last 3 years] with BFG the exception, because we wont take BFG shod vehicles on outback trips any more, as they tend to destroy the tyres, with impact damage.

we use em up here on the forest roads on 79 series cruiser utes and get a lot of punctures but are 110% better than BFG's.

ats4x4dotcom wrote:MTR is 25% thicker in the sidewall, and tougher thean the STT, just come back from a desert trip, one car on STT's with 5 punctures and 2 destroyed tyres, 5 cars on MTR's with 4 punctures between them, one on MTZ's with 2 punctures, 2 on Pro comps with no punctures.

This is pretty much what we see in general, taking alot of vehicles away [270 odd in last 3 years] with BFG the exception, because we wont take BFG shod vehicles on outback trips any more, as they tend to destroy the tyres, with impact damage.

Were they all near new tyres?
Pro Comp Mt or Xterrain?

ats4x4dotcom wrote:MTR is 25% thicker in the sidewall, and tougher thean the STT, just come back from a desert trip, one car on STT's with 5 punctures and 2 destroyed tyres, 5 cars on MTR's with 4 punctures between them, one on MTZ's with 2 punctures, 2 on Pro comps with no punctures.

This is pretty much what we see in general, taking alot of vehicles away [270 odd in last 3 years] with BFG the exception, because we wont take BFG shod vehicles on outback trips any more, as they tend to destroy the tyres, with impact damage.

Were they all near new tyres?
Pro Comp Mt or Xterrain?

my experience: good for the soft stuff (touring), but wear fast/fall apart in the rough stuff

two of mine did this when I gave them a hard time:

jimsaq wrote:my experience: good for the soft stuff (touring), but wear fast/fall apart in the rough stuff

two of mine did this when I gave them a hard time

I think 'hard' time is an understatement...

Musta been some quality driving there

And they still have a heap of tread left..

Ive got STT's on my Pajero. Been fine so far. One puncture between the tread left rear. Not seeing much mud, so if I could get the right size, next time Id be looking at ST-C.

We've found the Coopers have a lot more sidewall punctures in the outback. Most of my friends who were running them no longer do. Goodyear MTRs have been the best. BFGs are a mixed bag - some people have a great run, others are horrible.

I have read in afew other forums the Goodyear MTRs have a fairly sort compound and tear and wear quite quickly. this is just what i have read no personal experiance, so dont take it as gospel. but everywhere i have read everyone has been extramly happy with the MTRs.

in the on of the recent 4wd monthly mags (may 06, i think) they tested the STTs and seamingly they are one of the strongest in the way of punctures.... just had a second look. its an infomercal sort of thing. so belive what you will

Been looking for some mud tyres and talking to a lit of people. One of the mechanics i was having a chat to said that a batch or two of coopers got recalled. He reckon they are better now though. He was'nt trying to sell them to me either

Jobs done, got a great deal on a set of MTR's, so Dad's happy!

Thanks for all the replies, good to see what people reckon and their experiences.

Cheers, Paul

beretta wrote:Jobs done, got a great deal on a set of MTR's, so Dad's happy!

Thanks for all the replies, good to see what people reckon and their experiences.

Cheers, Paul

Nice what price?
I recently got 235/75/15's for $193.50 fitted
Did you get the free 4WD getaways book with it?

Once off deal for various reasons but it was $150 each for 4xMTR's, standard GU size, what ever that is. He's gotta buy one more for the spare.

beretta wrote:Once off deal for various reasons but it was $150 each for 4xMTR's, standard GU size, what ever that is. He's gotta buy one more for the spare.

fark that's an awesome price.

just bought some brand new stts 305/70/16.. have done 1000 kms on them, been of road once and ripped one of the rear tyres ,,few lugs have came of ,, not happyy

beretta wrote:Jobs done, got a great deal on a set of MTR's

YAY.. another has seen the light MTR FTW!

alki wrote:

ats4x4dotcom wrote:MTR is 25% thicker in the sidewall, and tougher thean the STT, just come back from a desert trip, one car on STT's with 5 punctures and 2 destroyed tyres, 5 cars on MTR's with 4 punctures between them, one on MTZ's with 2 punctures, 2 on Pro comps with no punctures.

This is pretty much what we see in general, taking alot of vehicles away [270 odd in last 3 years] with BFG the exception, because we wont take BFG shod vehicles on outback trips any more, as they tend to destroy the tyres, with impact damage.

Were they all near new tyres?
Pro Comp Mt or Xterrain?

For the trip the tyres had to have minimum of 75% tread, of which my Xterrains just passed, the Pro Comp all terrains were 95% 2 sets of MTRs were 85%|+ one set was brand new, the MTZ's were brand new, and the Cooper STT's were one new, [replaced by cooper after bad impact damage/exposed belts on carcass from previous trip] others 5000km old.

How do you find your Xterrain comparing to MT/R's.
I'm on my second set of MT/R's and am considaring Xterrains next time around.
I am happy with MT/R's,but have heard that Xterrains perform as good as MT/R's on all type of terrain and last longer.

So MTR's seem to be the go at the moment?

I dont like mud and do mostly daily driving and touring. Any recomendtions for tyres to suit these circumstances?

P.s. Sorry for the hijack

Toli wrote:So MTR's seem to be the go at the moment?

I dont like mud and do mostly daily driving and touring. Any recomendtions for tyres to suit these circumstances?

P.s. Sorry for the hijack

I'd recomend the MT/Rs as well. I've done almost 40,000km on mine and there only half worn.

About 80% of the blokes I go 4wding with are running MT/Rs as well and a really happy with them. They stick like sh*t to a blanket on road (wet or dry) and are brillant on roads and sand.

There only real weak point is there not real good in mud but i'm not a fan of mud either so that doesn't bother me.

Cheers Mick.

I love my Cooper STTs they are the bomb

Pardon my ignorance but which brand is MTR's ??

zackde wrote:Pardon my ignorance but which brand is MTR's ??

Goodyear Wrangler MT/R - Maximum Traction, Reinforced - you farkin' ignoramus!



Scott