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ancilliary reverse lights

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:37 am
by TRobbo
I am about to wire up some additional reversing lights.

What are members thoughts on the best way to do this and why. Manual on/off switch, auto when reverse selected, other?

cheers

Re: ancilliary reverse lights

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:56 am
by Shadow
TRobbo wrote:I am about to wire up some additional reversing lights.

What are members thoughts on the best way to do this and why. Manual on/off switch, auto when reverse selected, other?

cheers
have a 3 way switch (on/off/auto)

on (take power from an accessories wire) (legally not allowed AFAIK but could be handy in some 4wd situations if they are good enough lights)
auto (take power from current reverse light)
off (off....)

use a suitable relay also, the above circuits wont be able to drive the light.

Re: ancilliary reverse lights

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:06 pm
by -Scott-
Shadow wrote:
TRobbo wrote:I am about to wire up some additional reversing lights.

What are members thoughts on the best way to do this and why. Manual on/off switch, auto when reverse selected, other?

cheers
have a 3 way switch (on/off/auto)

on (take power from an accessories wire) (legally not allowed AFAIK but could be handy in some 4wd situations if they are good enough lights)
auto (take power from current reverse light)
off (off....)

use a suitable relay also, the above circuits wont be able to drive the light.
Yep - I'm with shadow.

I recall similar threads here, I think to remain legal the switch can't be accessible from the driver's seat.

If you don't use it on road, who'll know?

Scott

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:25 pm
by Toy80Diesel
I connected mine off a seperate switch. With a relay of course. Good for people following you too closely, or forgetting their high beams on.
Handy for connecting trailers at night, packing up after a late night bbq or reversing down a dark driveway.

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:31 pm
by toughnut
It depends on what you're after. If they are just going to be reverse only lights then just wire them up like any other accessory by running a wire straight from the battery to a relay and then the lights through to an earth. The wire that you would normally run through a switch just runs from the reverse light wire. If you also want to use the lights for working etc then have them through a switch running off a constant power wire under the dash so you can control when they are on or off.

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:02 pm
by beretta
I brought 12v fully sealed pond lights from Bunnings with 50watt globes in them for $10 each and wired them up to a switch on the dash, they're my "work lights". They're great, best bargain basement mod I've done yet.

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 10:37 pm
by bundytunna
does it matter if you dont use a relay?
i jus simply wired mine up with power to switch then light to switch with a ground in there somewhere.
doesnt seem to have any problems and the light is bright enuf
is this wrong?

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:17 pm
by GQ Bear
beretta wrote:I brought 12v fully sealed pond lights from Bunnings with 50watt globes in them for $10 each and wired them up to a switch on the dash, they're my "work lights". They're great, best bargain basement mod I've done yet.

Mate, you're a bloody champion. I get Hella license plate lights for nothing from work and have been using 'em as a winch light - to light up the cable spool on drum. I'm sick of replacing the globes/or lights each time i go through water.

Pond lights eh!! Bunnings ya say!! 10 bucks - struth even i can afford that

Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:36 pm
by Shadow
GQ Bear wrote:
beretta wrote:I brought 12v fully sealed pond lights from Bunnings with 50watt globes in them for $10 each and wired them up to a switch on the dash, they're my "work lights". They're great, best bargain basement mod I've done yet.

Mate, you're a bloody champion. I get Hella license plate lights for nothing from work and have been using 'em as a winch light - to light up the cable spool on drum. I'm sick of replacing the globes/or lights each time i go through water.

Pond lights eh!! Bunnings ya say!! 10 bucks - struth even i can afford that
even pond lights get hot so if they been on for an hour and you hit a cold creek they could crack/shatter etc.

but definantly sounds like a top idea. Will be looking at pond lights next time im at bunnings. :)

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:33 am
by beretta
Shadow wrote:
GQ Bear wrote:
beretta wrote:I brought 12v fully sealed pond lights from Bunnings with 50watt globes in them for $10 each and wired them up to a switch on the dash, they're my "work lights". They're great, best bargain basement mod I've done yet.

Mate, you're a bloody champion. I get Hella license plate lights for nothing from work and have been using 'em as a winch light - to light up the cable spool on drum. I'm sick of replacing the globes/or lights each time i go through water.

Pond lights eh!! Bunnings ya say!! 10 bucks - struth even i can afford that
even pond lights get hot so if they been on for an hour and you hit a cold creek they could crack/shatter etc.

but definantly sounds like a top idea. Will be looking at pond lights next time im at bunnings. :)
Maybe if they're hot enough, but I doubt you're driving around with your reverse lights on all the time?

They work really well for me, they were completely submerged last week for about 10-15 minutes in absolute poo and didn't get a drop of water in them and are working fine still, I'm very happy with them.

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:33 am
by beretta
By the way they came standard with a 25watt globe I swapped them for 50watts which I brought at the same time.

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:31 pm
by Toy80Diesel
bundytunna wrote:does it matter if you dont use a relay?
i jus simply wired mine up with power to switch then light to switch with a ground in there somewhere.
doesnt seem to have any problems and the light is bright enuf
is this wrong?
Not good, first problem you will melt the switch. I doubt it would be strong enough to carry the amperage the lights are requiring. Thats why you use a relay.

Secondly, if its not fused, you could be asking for trouble, i.e. FIRE!

I would install a fuse so if you melt the switch, you just blow the fuse.

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:35 pm
by nathan_o
anyone used any of the LED lights? with the reduced current you might be able to connect them straight to the existing circuit. Just depends if they give enough light for you... ??

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:43 pm
by toughnut
nathan_o wrote:anyone used any of the LED lights? with the reduced current you might be able to connect them straight to the existing circuit. Just depends if they give enough light for you... ??
I used these when I built my new tray. They work fairly well and I've knocked them around a fair bit because they sit on my chassis rail at the rear. Not quite bright enough to be able use effectively but better than standard reverse lights. ;)

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:56 pm
by Shadow
bundytunna wrote:does it matter if you dont use a relay?
i jus simply wired mine up with power to switch then light to switch with a ground in there somewhere.
doesnt seem to have any problems and the light is bright enuf
is this wrong?
You should have at minimum a fuse close to the power source (battery?) aslong as the switch is rated to the current your using there is no problem with this setup. 50watt bulb you should have a 5amp switch, which is a very common rating for automotive toggle switches.

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:56 pm
by Jimbo
I was going to ask the same question in regards to switches. I hate wiring up relays. Are there switches out there that can handle high currents?

What wattage are the reverse lights in a gq? When i put mine into revers the voltage drops quite a bit compared with other electricals.

Jimmy

Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:31 pm
by Shadow
Jimbo wrote:I was going to ask the same question in regards to switches. I hate wiring up relays. Are there switches out there that can handle high currents?

What wattage are the reverse lights in a gq? When i put mine into revers the voltage drops quite a bit compared with other electricals.

Jimmy
biggest ive seen is a 20amp toggle. Apparently there are higher rated but ive never seen them. There are 20amp DPDT aswell, which if you parallell them you can theoretically get 40amp, but practically youd only see about 30 amp before lifetime becomes an issue.

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:13 pm
by Potter
has anyone got a wiring diagram that i can follow to hook up my rear lights?
I want to be able to use them without selecting reverse but they need to come on when in reverse

thanks
josh

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:24 pm
by Potter
I have done a search on Google and come up with this wiring diagram

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I hope this helps other ppl

Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 11:08 am
by cleanskin
on my old truck i just cut the reversing wires off my truck (ie. so when i hit reverse gear they came on) and put them to the power on the spotties and earthed it somwhere, worked fine.. prob not the best :? but it worked.