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Rear tow point on Rangie?
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 11:39 pm
by Tony78rr
Besides a tow bar, what are people using as a 'substantial' rear tow point?
Any ideas (Cheap ones!!!!)
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 8:38 am
by Maggot4x4
Custom rear bar
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 8:57 am
by TuffRR
Custom bar, recovery hooks mounted onto chassis....
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 9:01 am
by Bodge
Yeah custom as well....
Using big hefty U section that goes around the rear crossmember and picks up the 4 attachment points 2 in the middle [vertical] and 2 on the outside [horizontal]. Then have attached a pin reciever style tow point with 18mm grade 8 bolts and a 5mm steel backing plate...
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 9:03 am
by Bodge
Oh yeah - its not pretty but it is overbuilt
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 10:13 am
by TuffRR
Its pretty important to have decent recovery hooks on the back of the Rangie coz i keep having to pull other people through
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 10:28 am
by JSBriggs
Anyone consider an American style receiver hitch? I guess Im lucky the the NAS RR's Disco's and Defenders come from the factory with them.
This enables you to either mount a ball hitch for towing or various recovery gear including a winch.
-Jeff
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2003 6:12 pm
by modman
jeff, i don't know if thats an american invention??
every 4wd in aust. has a receiver like that. but they do detract from ultimate ground clearance.
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 7:46 am
by Bodge
Whats the shear strength of that one pin??
Nissan's weigh a lot man....
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 10:57 am
by JSBriggs
modman wrote:jeff, i don't know if thats an american invention??
every 4wd in aust. has a receiver like that. but they do detract from ultimate ground clearance.
I only say American because they came standard on NAS trucks....
-Jeff
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2003 4:28 pm
by modman
if you put a pin with grade 12 rating (bolt) about 12mm it can be 26 tonne!
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:50 pm
by Britswed
Custom rear bar
Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:07 pm
by bazzle
pin I believe in double shear is about 28 tonnes. (using a square hitch)
Bazzle
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 9:42 am
by Bodge
bazzle wrote:pin I believe in double shear is about 28 tonnes. (using a square hitch)
Bazzle
Should be enough
Even a Nissan can't weigh that much....
Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 5:12 pm
by modman
i don't know?? they need a lot of fuel!!!
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 2:04 am
by David Lovejoy
Why not just fit two Jate rings and run a bridle between?
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 6:25 am
by Bodge
I had Jate rings and never had a problem - but they are not 'legal' for competition events or for non-Landrover club trips which specify mounting by two rated points to the chassis...
AND I gotta say its easier with the hooks - no more standing in the mud up to my crotch dorking around with two shackles... and no metal attached to the end of your stretchy sling shot recovery rope...
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 7:41 am
by David Lovejoy
Fairynuff...
It's a strange world we live in!
Genuine Jate rings are loaded to 14,000lbs - more than enough to tear the chassis...
ideal for a Rangey but not for all other makes of 4x4...
I used to like a welded loop from the end of either chassis rail supported by a butterfly plate - stronger than a bolt in any form, then the Motor Sport Assoc said "No"... Ridiculous, still such is life.
Probably best to look at local club rules first then design the recovery point...
I'll stick with the Jates Rings - they have served me well so far!
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:54 pm
by modman
jate rings look neat, but they're a pita in deep mud trying to get shackles around. i suppose you could leave a bridle permanently connected, hooked over the bullbar.
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 7:16 pm
by landy_man
i had jate rings on my defender and they were great. just attach a bridle beforehand and then you dont even have to get out the car
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 7:29 pm
by modman
landyman, what did you use for a bridle??
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 8:49 pm
by landy_man
very short tree trunk protector with shackle in the middle
ideally you would want a really short snatch strap, but those are not available....
I have also seen nylon covered steel cable
but I am thinking about possibly some 10 or 12mm plasma rope would also do...
and you could tie the plasma to the bullbar while not using it
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 9:24 pm
by David Lovejoy
A 14 tonne SWL short lifting strap about ten feet long is ideal - with a padded slip collet so you don't need an extra shackle...
Be careful it's not too short or you can pull in the chassis rails under high load...
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 4:06 pm
by modman
cheers landyman, good thought.
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:47 pm
by David Lovejoy
hmmm - *must check to see if writing invisible posts*