Outer Limits 4x4 Board

okay this really sucks
im getting at the stage when i realise a sierra is too small for what i want ya know...

i have 92 swb sierra...
new soft top (ute style)
got old one too
motor is on the brink, clutch is shit
8 month old 30" muddies on it
extended shackles
bullbar + spotties

how much you guys reckon i could get for it $2,000?

now im looking at getting something bigger, thats practicle and that i can go offroad and have some fun
im thinking twin cab hilux diesel...

grrrrrrrrrrrr
$10,000 will be my limit
some one help me!!!!!!!!

bung a good engine and clutch in and you might get 4g sierras seem to have come down a bit in price lately though.

good engine n clutch $1,000 later

Keep the sierra, and put the $10k towards a house deposit.

You probably get 3k for it so long as body is neat. Most sierra owners arent too worried about pulling an engine out - it's pretty easy to do.


Unlike a GQ.... :(






Dont forget though, any big 4by is gonna use twice the fuel of the sierra. At a MINIMUM.

If that puts you off, ask yourself will you ever do a big trip that you need the space for etc etc.


If you decide you will, sell it and buy an LPG LWB GQ, or a Petrol MQ Shorty.

im thinking of a surf or somehting like that

http://carpoint.com.au/used-car/TOYOTA/ ... 32404.aspx

(personally id love a ford bronco )

any one seen some nice surfs, what are they like .ect .ect

must be a diesel
what are the diesels like on fuel?

what are the diesels like on fuel?

shit, mine was a 92 SSR-X 2.4td and it had no go and was thirsty, not to mention I destroyed the IFS on 31's. (ball joint, cv, etc...) My new ZD30 is a pleasure to drive and uses under 10Lt/100kms even around town, and towing is very economical.

I had almost exactly the same issues.
I had a 92 Sierra "widetrak"
Paid 5K, and spent another 5K on it over the years, with Bullbar, snorkel, exhaust, extractors, new alternator, new starter motor, carby rebuild, half an engine overhaul while doing clutch, lighting upgrades, heavy-duty clutch (first one died on Stockton of all places to lose a clutch), UHF radios, CD player (dust killed it real fast, was not a good decision)

Then sold the whole thing for 4K :(

But I got so tired of the eternal choice, Namely:
Camping gear, recovery gear, or family - Choose ONE

I ended up with a Diesel GQ with factory lockers, snorkel, b/bar and aftermarket turbo. It's not HALF the fun the zook was, but it sure holds us all a whole lot more easily.

ezookiel,
so do you regret it?

your story is exaclty my thoughts
(my parens hate me wasting money)
my dad used to be in alot of debt, and doesnt want me going down the same path (i dont have any now, but you know)
and thats fair enough

waxhead, im not to sure exactly on the models yet
but are surf just like the hilux yeah? my mate has a hilux turbo diesel, puts in 100l and gets 900km out of it....
which is better then my zook, lol

and the fact, my mates are all little bitches and want doof doof machines, i am their only chance to go offroad, lol... and having fun

chunkz wrote:
(personally id love a ford bronco )

They have about the same amount of room as a sierra.
just keep driving your zook till it dies, you will have a lot of fun and it will go for a long time on a clapped out donk before it spits the dummy compleatly
Peter.

droopypete wrote:

chunkz wrote:
(personally id love a ford bronco )

They have about the same amount of room as a sierra.
just keep driving your zook till it dies, you will have a lot of fun and it will go for a long time on a clapped out donk before it spits the dummy compleatly
Peter.

lol the bronco was for pure looks and sound (mmm v8)

chimpboy wrote:Keep the sierra, and put the $10k towards a house deposit.

X2 or buy an RR

Chimpboy boy i see you have a schnauzer, lovely dogs the family giant died 2

chimpboy wrote:Keep the sierra, and put the $10k towards a house deposit.

One of the smartest comments I'v seen here for a long time

look at the old rangies, heaps of em with lpg going for not much.

4 months ago i looked at one, 83ish 2door crate 350 on straight lpg CHEAP

2"body and sus lift front and rear maxidrives rear sailsbury diff all for 5.5k as is. needed a bit of love for under 800 diy you would have had a beaty of a rig

just look round at your options, LPG is cheap and still will be for a while yet whilst deisel may not be

wrksux wrote:look at the old rangies, heaps of em with lpg going for not much.

4 months ago i looked at one, 83ish 2door crate 350 on straight lpg CHEAP

2"body and sus lift front and rear maxidrives rear sailsbury diff all for 5.5k as is. needed a bit of love for under 800 diy you would have had a beaty of a rig

just look round at your options, LPG is cheap and still will be for a while yet whilst deisel may not be

Actually the defender in the for sale section sounds awesome for $10k, 6.5 litre diesel... if you like diesel, you'd have to like that.

Pretty large vehicle though, not so much of a toy off-road.

chimpboy wrote:Keep the sierra, and put the $10k towards a house deposit.

Great advice - put in a new clutch - freshen up the motor and keep wheeln' it. Think about this very carefully before rushing out with the best short term intentions.

You can spend and spend on a bigger 4WD and probably have less fun than in your Zook. Real Estate usually increases in value over time. Motor vehicles depreciate over time and 4WDs depreciate more [especially when you start throwing big $ into them – you rarely if ever get back anywhere near the $ you spend on them].

Cheers

the zook is too small
thats the problem!
i need more space
more people

plus i swear i wont put alot of cash into the surf..
as i wont be doing as much offroading as i hope (due to working 6 day weeks)

and yeah, but will go out like 4 times a year
and some big trips

As for buying a house, im about 6 years away from thinking about that
and yeah

ask telstra....

No seriously, if you honestly want a bigger 4by that you dont want to mod to the hilt and go nuts on then your idea of a hilux is not too bad.

Dont bother with a range rover cause by the sounds of it your not real into maintaining your vehicle 5 days a week

I would just hold onto the zook for as long as you can, then when/if the engine goes make a choice, or spend afew $$$ now to fix wats needed to be fixed and enjoy it for abit longer.

About not looking for a house.... i tell you this THE SOONER YOU START LOOKING THE BETTER OFF YOU WILL BE.... i am kicking myself everyday for not putting more effort into a house purchase three or so years ago. But I do see the other side of it.... if you are on your own and your not earning a shit load then yeah its hard (read impossible) these days

do some research into what you want and take the time to get what you want and need at the right price. You say you want a diesel and then ask what are they like for mileage? Why do you want a diesel if you don't even know why you want it.

You keep saying not enough room in the Sierra. Not enough room for what? What can't you fit in?

grimbo wrote:do some research into what you want and take the time to get what you want and need at the right price. You say you want a diesel and then ask what are they like for mileage? Why do you want a diesel if you don't even know why you want it.

You keep saying not enough room in the Sierra. Not enough room for what? What can't you fit in?

according to other posts found on this forum
and surf website
the surf gets better k's then my sierra (when the engine was good)

enough room
enough room for mates
gear
beds
later on in life if i have a good paying job..... sierra will be fun as a second car just for a toy...
but i just cant afford that at the moment

sierras are the cheapest daily driver fourby. if you can't afford to keep one going, i doubt anything else will do. if you have no room for stuff it's because you're using a ute style soft top. go back to your fullsize top and build yourself a storage basket for the back area. mates can find their own transport. i just foresee misery if you ditch the sierra and run off to a silver bullet that won't solve your problems.

service the carby if your fuel consumption is high. also don't use so much right foot. it's slow, get used to it. more revs = more fuel but not more speed.

Sell the Sierra and buy a Hilux .. (I did and the hilux is still sitting in the driveway almost two years later .. but it's a great idea )

A dualcab Lux is not that bad as a commuter (as good as a sierra) but it will never be "fun" like a sierra is.. But a Zuk is not a terribly "practicle" vehicle..

That said if anyone wanted to swap me a Zuk for my Lux .. I would most likley say yes on the spot and throw the Lux keys at them ..

yeah i dont think anything would as fun as a sierra offroad... little thing just goes n goes, fun as....
but because of work comitments its hard to get time to go out....
so i will be doing less trips, but bigger trips

Dont get a surf, they are piles of crap, if you like the size then maybe a petrol 4 runner on lpg, or dare i say a tdi disco.

Sorry to take so long to get back to you, I'm interstate at present, and using borrowed computer time to log in.

No, I don't regret it.
Yes the Patrol has some problems, but they were likely there when I bought it and so my own stupid fault. But whilst the zook was fun, it was fun with a lot of downsides.

:( It had no room,
:( was gutless as ... even with some major engine tweaking,
:( and it was ROUGH AS GUTS to drive out bush. Every bump, hump, and rock ended up being transferred as a thump into your lower back, which at my age I can only take for so long before it's not quite so fun anymore.
:( and in convoy on dirt roads, you got absolutely filthy. I have often been able to FEEL the grit in my hair at the end of a day in convoy in her, and been so envious of those getting out of their better sealed, better suspended, air-con'd, larger wheeled 4WD's looking fresh as daisy's when I was tired, dirty, and sore all over.

The Patrol doesn't even notice the bumps the zook used to transfer to my spine.
It idles up hills in third that the zook used to climb only by screaming at 3000rpm in low low.
It holds my whole family without compromising anything i.e. recovery gear, and camping, and family, and sometimes even a friend or two as well, all fit in there.
AND ABOVE ALL it can be driven to places other than the local area to go 4WDing. It was no fun driving the zook from Canberra to Stockton Beach, whereas that's where the Patrol is at the moment, and it cruise-controlled it's way up here effortlessly. It laps up long highway hours effortlessly and comfortably. Something the Zook will never do no matter how many dollars you throw at it.

A good friend of mine has a 2.4l td surf, nice to drive and pretty good on the beach (crap on the rocks but). Very popular car around the coast where i come from (south of perth). Economy is pretty good and very comfortable and quiet with full lekky windows and air con.

very good value for money.
my $0.02 any way
Craig

This is a great thread, im in the same boat as you. Sierra rides like shit, no room, gutless, gearing's shit, etc and am considering upgrading.

had a look at one
drives great
a bit gutless
but its a nascar compared to the sierra
lol

very comfy (guy has recaro seats in them >:D )
havnt taken off road (test drives cant go that far, lol)
and yeah
very happy with it
lots of room in the back
seats are going to fold up, and im sleeping in the back, alot

the top model (i presume) came with recaro seats as standard

oh did it...
then well, very comfy none the less
full electrics