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schwitzer turbo
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:08 pm
by mattlux
Does anyone know if you can put bigger turbine wheels in the schwitzer safely without maching the housing to thin. Has anyone heard of the housing cracking before?
The problem i have is, i have tightened up my wastgate rod all the way and have tried putting washers under the bolts to space the wastegate out further to run more boost but it wont go over nine pound even with a bleed valve in the vac line. Any susgestions?
What is the main mods to get GQs going good apart from exhaust and pump mods, i have a 2 1/2 exhaust with no mufflers, putting a front mount on soon and fuel is wound up a bit but just doesnt seem to pull like its got a turbo. Any susgestions?
Re: schwitzer turbo
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:10 pm
by bogged
any chance you can edit that and make it readable?
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:45 pm
by chops
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:53 pm
by bogged
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Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:58 pm
by mattlux
Sorry guys didnt realsie it is a spelling comp.
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:08 pm
by g@z
no one picked on your spelling, it was more comments that a lack of structure make it really hard to read, therefore it makes it really hard to help.
Regards,
g@z.
Re: schwitzer turbo
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:14 pm
by bogged
mattlux wrote:and fuel is wound up a bit but just doesnt seem to pull like its got a turbo. Any susgestions?
have you ever had it setup or tuned by someone who knows what they are doing?
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:20 pm
by mattlux
It was tuned by a local shop in warragul that has a good rep in this area, but not 100% sure that its spot on.
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:36 pm
by mattstar
IT'S A HILUX, is it a 2.8 diesel? they are only little 4's, there's only so much "pull" turbo mods will produce, the I/C will help a little but I don't think you'll get what your looking for from a hilux motor....
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:45 pm
by bogged
mattstar wrote:IT'S A HILUX, is it a 2.8 diesel?
its in the nissan section so you wouldnt think so....
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 8:31 am
by g@z
and it says "GQ" in the OP....
I suggest taking it to somewhere else, like one of the big diesel workshops, just to get a 2nd opinion. If you are trying to get more out of it yourself by playing around with it, there has to be something wrong.
Regards,
g@z.
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:00 am
by morkz
personally if you want more power change your turbo setup all together sell what you and do it properly from the start.
get a different manifold a high mounted roller bearing turbo and a front mount intercooler and you'll get it pull like a true turbo diesel. The when the funds allow get the pump done and you'll be getting your 150kw at the rear wheels.
aus4wd racing do kits intercooler, custom roller bearing turbo, 4" snorkle may be worth dropping in.
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:27 am
by bogged
morkz wrote:4" snorkle may be worth dropping in.
funny you mention that, lookin at Mannys GQ at the Ateco, he runs what looks like twin 2inch pipes for a snorkels/.... which i would have thoguht would be less efficent than 1x3inch...
Turbo setup, I want the one off Ossies car, fuck that thing sounded INSANE!
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:55 am
by jessie928
those pipes are not 2"
they are at least 2 1/2 inch pipes, maybe larger even
Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 6:51 pm
by DaveS3
They looked like 3'' to me.
Dave.
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:43 pm
by striped tomato
don't know about bigger wheels but i have a schwitzer with a clipped wheel to spool up faster, 16psi boost and a top mount i/c. exhaust is 3" from the turbo back, no mufflers. intake is safari snorkel to GU diesel filter (RD28/TD42T). dyno tuned, and have just added an in line holley blue fuel pump to keep the fuel up to the motor.
puts out just over 150hp at the rear wheels, turbo struggles at higher rpm and used to run out of fuel on wide open throttle through the gears but hopefully the fuel pump will fix that. to improve across the whole range i'd probably have to replace the whole turbo with a different unit, my old DTS used to seem a better all round setup but the schwitzer does spool up a lot quicker. averages 15l/100km overall running 35"claws on road and 37" creepies offroad.
if you can't get over 9psi boost then i think you must be restricted on the intake as the schwitzer will definitely go higher with a bleed valve on the wastegate line.
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 11:29 pm
by morkz
bogged wrote:morkz wrote:4" snorkle may be worth dropping in.
funny you mention that, lookin at Mannys GQ at the Ateco, he runs what looks like twin 2inch pipes for a snorkels/.... which i would have thoguht would be less efficent than 1x3inch...
Turbo setup, I want the one off Ossies car, ***** that thing sounded INSANE!
mani's setup is 3" i saw it when he first built it up in qld its not that efficient if you have a look at alot of the turbo diesel trucks out there most are running 4" even rohan runs just a 4" snorkle.
Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:45 am
by mattlux
striped tomato wrote:don't know about bigger wheels but i have a schwitzer with a clipped wheel to spool up faster, 16psi boost and a top mount i/c. exhaust is 3" from the turbo back, no mufflers. intake is safari snorkel to GU diesel filter (RD28/TD42T). dyno tuned, and have just added an in line holley blue fuel pump to keep the fuel up to the motor.
puts out just over 150hp at the rear wheels, turbo struggles at higher rpm and used to run out of fuel on wide open throttle through the gears but hopefully the fuel pump will fix that. to improve across the whole range i'd probably have to replace the whole turbo with a different unit, my old DTS used to seem a better all round setup but the schwitzer does spool up a lot quicker. averages 15l/100km overall running 35"claws on road and 37" creepies offroad.
if you can't get over 9psi boost then i think you must be restricted on the intake as the schwitzer will definitely go higher with a bleed valve on the wastegate line.
Thanks striped tomato, have tried with bleed vlave but cant get over nine, i am going to try holding the wastegate shut and see what happens.
Intake is turbo dyn airbox with safari snorkel.
You wouldnt know if you can get a three inch dump pipe for the schwitzer's easy and cheap? if not i will just make one.
Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:05 am
by patrolpaul
When you get it tuned make sure they do it on a dyno! I got mine done this way and it makes a huge diference and only costs about $125
Cheap when you think about it!
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:50 pm
by mattlux
Thanks for the info guys, it was done on a dyno properly.
I am thinking of sending my turbo to mtq and getting them to check it out.