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80 series wheels sizes
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:27 am
by krawlr
hi guys a mate is looking at buying a 1996 80series(24valve)and hes wondering if the 15inch rims fit?hes been told that the newer 80s have bigger brakes and can only fit 16inch rims on them?
can someone please confirm if the 15s will fit ?
cheers in advance dudes
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:05 am
by The Fish
15" wheels will not fit straight on a 1996 model 80 series. They will fit on the front I believe but not the back as they clash with the calipers. You can get around this by grinding away some material off the back of the caliper or running wheel spacers.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:13 am
by krawlr
hi the fish cheers for the reply mate .....
so is this a common thing to do or do most of you guys run the 16s on the 80s?
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:21 am
by The Fish
Grinding of rear brake calipers is fairly common with those who prefer to run 15" rims & tyres for greater side wall flex. There also is a greater range of 15" tyres vs. 16" tyres.
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 8:11 am
by Hardcorr
I wouldn't say there is a greater range of 15" tyres over 16". 16" rims have been standard now for over a decade, tyre manufacturers are producing almost anything in 16 that is available in 15. I don't know of a tyre that isn't available as a 16 and is in the 15's.
I don't know too many people that have modified their 80's to take 15" rims either. Side wall flex differences would be negligable between the two, I would think.
Of course this is just my opinion, I'm happy with running 16's, and everyone I go driving with also run them.
Cheers
Corry
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:08 am
by crankycruiser
Now days it is just as easy toget tyres for 16's as it is 15's
i'd stay away from grinding stuff offf the calipers!! theya are wat makes u stop..... i like to stop
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:55 pm
by Bluey
i have a 95 gxl diesel, and my 15" rims won't fit on the rear without fouling on brake. it actually hits the torque plate/bracket, but even still there isn't too much metal to grind away to get clearance. obviously it must be doable, but i'm selling the 15's and will buy 16's. not worth stuffing around when can get tyres & rims to suit (ie 16"), with kids in the car and wife driving probably more than i do.
just my thoughts
Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:31 pm
by Trusa
There is not a great deal of grinding needed. For those interested I will get pictures of one I did of tomorrow. There is still plenty of caliper for strength and does not interfere with any brake operation.
The fronts will fit fine.
Ben
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 4:38 am
by krawlr
cheers guys for the help but if you could post up some pics TRUSA it would be cool.....
15 on an 80
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 8:29 am
by stinger
I have a 94 HZJ80. You are right the 15s will fit on the front, no problems. To fit my beadlocked 15 sunraisers I had to grind a small amount of metal of the out side edge as others have said there is still plenty of metal and not braking problems. The amount I ground was in the realm of mms not cms. One point though I recently replaced the rear brake pads and had to take a little more off.
I runs 35s and a 15" 35 is usually about 50-60 cheaper than a 315/75/16 so I prefer to stay with 15s (plus that is what my beadlocks are fitted to from a previous vehicle).
Cheers and happy grinding,
Stinger
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 7:55 pm
by RogerFo
Yes - TRUSA, pictures would be appreciated!
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 9:25 pm
by hackas
Im running 15's on '96 running gear but the centers are reversed and
offset an extra 30mm. did em at work on the lathe. I originally done em for my 75 ute to stop em scrubbing on the chassis at the rear but i was
stoked to find they fit the 80.
Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 11:31 pm
by Trusa
Sorry guys, didn't get a chance today. Tomorrow I promise.
Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 7:58 pm
by Trusa
Ok, here they are.
Dodgy photo of the side of the caliper showing how much you need to grind off on the right. I ground on an angle to give a semi-neat look. You can see the original caliper is angled also not straight. (Sorry about crap photo)
You need to grind the whole way along the caliper as shown here.
Another view of the small amount needed to remove.
It really is quite simple. Just a matter of grinding, fitting rims and looking from the back of the rim to check clearance. This amount just clears (read: only just) my 15x8 sunnies, however easily clears my 15x7 Landcruiser rims off the middy. If you are doing it to also be able to borrow mates rims or steal spares when in trouble it may pay to take a little extra as there is around 1mm difference in just the two rims I have used. Better safe than scrubbing!!
That help?
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:25 am
by krawlr
cheers trusa ............too easy dude i dont know why people are worried youre only schimming cast iron.
my mate has some 15x10s and 33s to go on once we do this mod.?
thanks again dudes
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:14 pm
by Bluey
not really worried about the grinding part, had to do this when put hzj calipers on the middy. was more steel there to start with, also worried about the very small clearance between wheel and caliper. don't know if this low clearance could ever become a servere problem or not at speed or something, do know it will wear inside of rim (mud sticking between caliper and rim)
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 10:21 am
by bj on roids
Bluey wrote:not really worried about the grinding part, had to do this when put hzj calipers on the middy. was more steel there to start with, also worried about the very small clearance between wheel and caliper. don't know if this low clearance could ever become a servere problem or not at speed or something, do know it will wear inside of rim (mud sticking between caliper and rim)
nah unless your bearings are bad, the tiny clearance is never an issue