Outer Limits 4x4 Board

a mate of mine rolled his 4runner on the weekend and the insurance company says they have alot of these cars doing this cause theyre too narrow n unstable i have @6inches of lift on mine does this mean mine is gunna roll on the slightest incline if so any ideas how to remedy this cheers shaun

Increase your width.

Tonka your new sig is a crack up. Lol.

They said the same thing about Sierras but in my 8 years in our club I've only seen about 4 go over onto their sides and that was more driver error than anything else. The main reason a vehicle goes over is driver error not a design issue, if it was a design issue they wouldn't be sold to the public. Drive the car like it has a 6 inch lift, ie careful do everything where possible gently no sudden changes in speed etc when on ledges and gangles. you will be surprised how far you can lean something before it goes over. I've had mine on the two driver side wheels coming up a bank and it didn't go over.

If you are worried then two trains of thought
One as mentioned is go wider by using wider axle/diffs and wheels
or lose some of the height and trim your fenders etc to fit the wheels to lower your centre of gravity

if your really that worried dont drive the hard lines and take it easy.


but wider is better.



NICK

what like wheel spacers??

wheel spacers or offset lim gaps is the cheapest way to do it. Offset rims will cost about 200 and give you safely 3 inch of width, you can go wider but it will wear your bearings. Wheel spacers are about 500 and will give you up 6 inch of width pending size.

I did mine with IFS hubs and a wide track rear, although it didnt cost me jack it will cost your average smo about 1200, but it is legal unlike the other options.

NICK

I thought that changing the offset of the rims was legal.

Wheel spacers are definately not legal, not even the ones that bolt to the studs, and have a second set of studs for the wheels.

Rut ***** wrote:I thought that changing the offset of the rims was legal.

it is

Rut ***** wrote:Wheel spacers are definately not legal, not even the ones that bolt to the studs, and have a second set of studs for the wheels.

the ones that are merely up to a 5mm spacer ARE in fact legla the additional stud ones ARE NOT

your local main roads will have info on why: to do with not checking iside stud nuts, and not being able to see them!

I was under the impression that all spacers were illegal, not that a 5mm would be worth the effort anyway.

I run reversed 80 series rims on my MWB, which gave me a couple of inches extra width each side. Made a huge difference to the stability. Haven't noticed any increased wear on the bearings yet, but I only use the reversed rims offroad.

changing the offset on the rim is illegal in queensland. it is illegal to widen you wheel track therefore widen with rims is illegal.


NICK

Yeah nick is correct about the track width issue, if you alter the track width it is illigal.

Also depends on how much you drive your rig, will depend on the amount of offset.

If you use it as a daily driver i would not go putting masive offset rims on, as it will wear bearings.

If you use it only on weekends and drive to and from the 4wd track than offsetting the rims a fair bit wont effect it, as you only taveling short distances.

If you tow you rig than offset it as much as you want as the rig only travels a couple of hundred metres( and you would usually pull the front appart between comps or events anyway)

Your right, I hadn't thought about the increase in track width. Pretty sure this is the same in Vic.

I rolled my 4 runner a few months back....more driver error than anything else though.....

Nick

4Runners are the same width as hilux so are they unstable to! Make your suspenion lift reasonable NOT as high as you can. Keep centre of gravity as low as you can , and make the suspenion flex. I find my rig very stable but before i reworked the rear springs after bobing the body it was so tipy because the rear was not flexing at all.

wasnt it in a carpark? i would say its not likely that it was a design issue then

Yeah BJ, in a friggin car park....

Nick

nice sig line!!

good work getting back into a hilux

awesome machines

cya round

cheers

They are dude...it took a fair bit of convincing to get my olds to lend me more money as this is my 3rd car in my couple of months of having my p's....but yeah, it will be worth it!

Cant wait to pick it up!

Nick