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adaptor for Jeep engine or transmission
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 10:25 pm
by xappas
Hi,
I would like to ask if there are any adaptors either for the engine to transmission or transmission to transfer (LT 230). I've seen some stuff for Chevrolet products but none for Jeep.
I am looking to use a Jeep engine, either the 6-cyl 4.0 or the V8 5.2 lt. to a Classic Range Rover. The reason is that Jeep products are much easier to find in Greece than Chevrolet ones.
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:03 pm
by justinC
Easy one. Use the 5.9 litre and TH400 from the late 70's cherokee, and Marks adapters here in OZ make a LT230 to TH400 kit.
Stump pulling engines these 360's, and use about the same fuel as the rover 3.5 auto rangie anyway.
Jeep also used the 727 torqueflite in some models, range rovers used these in 1984 to 1986, coupled to a 1:1 ratio high range LT230.
I'd pick the TH400 personally, as it would be the easiest to find attached to the 360, and things like the kickdown cable etc will be easier to fab than the rod and levers used on the torqueflite.
JC
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:38 pm
by xappas
5.9 are difficult to get here. And the 5.2 (318) lt. come with the 46RH (A518) transmission. I don't know if this engine can be used with a TH400.
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 11:46 pm
by justinC
Hmmm, not familiar with the A518, but the 318 is a common enough motor over here, not in Jeeps though. Most of ours got the wheezing 4 litre and the fuel guzzling tree puller 360.
If the A518 is a Chrysler origin 'box, I wonder if the A727 output housing etc would fit, allowing the adaption of the Rangies LT230 Transfer?.. Just a thought.
JC
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:40 am
by cloughy
justinC wrote:
If the A518 is a Chrysler origin 'box, I wonder if the A727 output housing etc would fit, allowing the adaption of the Rangies LT230 Transfer?.. Just a thought.
JC
Nah the TF727 used in RR's is stuffed in an AMC (american motor company) casing and still requires an adaptor plate to fit the mopar gear
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:43 am
by Loanrangie
cloughy wrote:justinC wrote:
If the A518 is a Chrysler origin 'box, I wonder if the A727 output housing etc would fit, allowing the adaption of the Rangies LT230 Transfer?.. Just a thought.
JC
Nah the TF727 used in RR's is stuffed in an AMC (american motor company) casing and still requires an adaptor plate to fit the mopar gear
You could use the extension housing of a rangie 727 with a chrysler 727 to mate to a chrysler V8.
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 9:57 am
by cloughy
Loanrangie wrote:cloughy wrote:justinC wrote:
If the A518 is a Chrysler origin 'box, I wonder if the A727 output housing etc would fit, allowing the adaption of the Rangies LT230 Transfer?.. Just a thought.
JC
Nah the TF727 used in RR's is stuffed in an AMC (american motor company) casing and still requires an adaptor plate to fit the mopar gear
You could use the extension housing of a rangie 727 with a chrysler 727 to mate to a chrysler V8.
You COULD do that but your transfer case turns out in a crappy position, the AMC casing is used because it already tilts the auto somewhat
Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 1:35 pm
by justinC
cloughy wrote:Loanrangie wrote:cloughy wrote:justinC wrote:
If the A518 is a Chrysler origin 'box, I wonder if the A727 output housing etc would fit, allowing the adaption of the Rangies LT230 Transfer?.. Just a thought.
JC
Nah the TF727 used in RR's is stuffed in an AMC (american motor company) casing and still requires an adaptor plate to fit the mopar gear
You could use the extension housing of a rangie 727 with a chrysler 727 to mate to a chrysler V8.
You COULD do that but your transfer case turns out in a crappy position, the AMC casing is used because it already tilts the auto somewhat
Correct, I'd forgotten about the angle issue. JC
Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 8:27 pm
by Loanrangie
The angle could be changed by a slight rotation of the t/c and drill/tap some new holes or make up a sandwhich plate 10mm or so with the holes relocated.
Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:43 pm
by cloughy
Loanrangie wrote:The angle could be changed by a slight rotation of the t/c and drill/tap some new holes or make up a sandwhich plate 10mm or so with the holes relocated.
And then if you use a sandwich plate the shaft penetration needs correcting and there is no meat there to redrill your holes
Posted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:11 pm
by callum
justinC wrote:Hmmm, not familiar with the A518, but the 318 is a common enough motor over here, not in Jeeps though. Most of ours got the wheezing 4 litre and the fuel guzzling tree puller 360.
If the A518 is a Chrysler origin 'box, I wonder if the A727 output housing etc would fit, allowing the adaption of the Rangies LT230 Transfer?.. Just a thought.
JC
from wikipedia
wikipedia wrote:A518
The A518 (later 46RH with hydraulic control, 46RE with electronic control) is an A727 derivative with overdrive, used in trucks and vans starting in the early 1990s.
i think it also has lockup, but it didn't mention anything there.
http://www.allpar.com/mopar/torqueflite.html that's a good site for info.
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:54 pm
by Loanrangie
cloughy wrote:Loanrangie wrote:The angle could be changed by a slight rotation of the t/c and drill/tap some new holes or make up a sandwhich plate 10mm or so with the holes relocated.
And then if you use a sandwich plate the shaft penetration needs correcting and there is no meat there to redrill your holes
I didnt say it was ideal, just that it could be done
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:01 pm
by cloughy
Loanrangie wrote:cloughy wrote:Loanrangie wrote:The angle could be changed by a slight rotation of the t/c and drill/tap some new holes or make up a sandwhich plate 10mm or so with the holes relocated.
And then if you use a sandwich plate the shaft penetration needs correcting and there is no meat there to redrill your holes
I didnt say it was ideal, just that it could be done
Yea well i guess thats the problem with the internet, you tell someone how easy it will be (albeit never done it before) and they think well this bloke on the net reckons its easy and gives it a crack, mmmm fark he says thats not as simple as the bloke on the net said, now i'm in the crap
I'm not digging at you in particular, but i see alot of misinformed advice taken and those who take DON'T know what the Repercussions are suffer
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:37 pm
by mopar rangie
cut the adaptor in the center rotate it around then weld it where you want it.weld one bore and then turn it true while on a jig plate.bores are now in line and T/C is where you want it.easy if you have the stuff or know someone that has.