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RWC troubles :(
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:18 pm
by wrksux
Well my rig is getting its RWC today, just got a call from the mechanic, it has a 2" body lift vicroads want anything over 40mm enginered :( im trying to get hold of the PO as far as i know all the work was done by cheezy racing, rear bar, 1/4 chop and im assuimg they did the body lift aswell.
I need a letter or documentation the vehicle is safe and the kit was legal or something like this, can anyone shed some light on this for me?
what is the cost of an engineer?
cheers
Tim
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:22 pm
by Jimbo
That sucks. If its just the body lift take it to another mechanic. Mine was passed no questions. Or you could always put a smaller body lift in
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:26 pm
by wrksux
all the barwork is to suit 2"lift. the mech is a great guy family firend he just doesnt want his ass on the line if something comes up. its because vic roads said 40mm is the max which confuses the crap outta me since i thought it was 50mm for vic
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:28 pm
by Jimbo
Sorry i dont know how much engineers cost.
So there is no possibility of using 40mm body blocks? Even just for the roadworthy?
I would ring vic roads again cause i;m pretty sure its 50mm
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:34 pm
by wrksux
on hold to them now
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 12:53 pm
by of4x4
If the mechanic is a family friend, get him to show you were he got the 40mm from. Maybe he's got the measurement wrong?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:12 pm
by wrksux
it is a 50mm lift, well vicroads is next to useless everytime i speak i get a differnt answer.
called an engineer 500 for the cert before he will even look at it.
if i cant have a 50mm body lift then all my barwork is useless as i cant use it since its all for a 50mm body lift, that and a 50mm sus lift.
argh this is turning into an expensive ordeal just to get a rwc
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:13 pm
by bogged
engineers can be $400-500 probably more with the new bullshit rules.
40mm
knew there was a reason I went 40....
PS.. once you have tried to pass at one person, if he gives you paperwork, you have to have it cleared there, taking it elsewhere wont work.
I dont see why people say go elsewhere, whats wrong with being 100% legal?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:23 pm
by Jimbo
So will the bar work hit with 40mm blocks.
"PS.. once you have tried to pass at one person, if he gives you paperwork, you have to have it cleared there, taking it elsewhere wont work. "
I dont know why you would say that. I have done this a few times with various cars including my surf.
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:36 pm
by wrksux
Spoke to cheezy, very helpfull.
He is confused why its not legal in the eyes of vicroads, told me if worst comes to worst they can engineer it for 850 which is money i wanted to spend on muddies but if i have to do it well then i have to do it.
vic roads cant give me the same answer i mean wtf
well i dont know who did the RWC orgininally so i took it to my mechanic.
bogged can you or anyone recomend a workshop that will pass a rig with 2 + 2 lift. it isnt an unroadworthy car for god sakes
pref in SE burbs im in doncaster car is in eltham at the moment[/quote]
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:43 pm
by fnqcairns
Yeah you cannot use the same paperwrk and go somewhere else to get it cleared, but you can start over again elsewhere from go to wo.
Pull it from your friend and take it elsewhere -easy, save the grief, why not?.
I have done this a few times when I have not agreed with a mechanic -worked every time.
Never let your missus take a car for a roadworthy!!!!!
cheers fnq
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:45 pm
by jessie928
850$ to engineer lift blocks?
they must be crazy over there!!
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 1:47 pm
by wrksux
i was told 500 for just the cert from one guy thats not even looking at the car or writeing the report.
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:46 pm
by bogged
wrksux wrote:... told me if worst comes to worst they can engineer it for 850
boy, have they gone up - but new rules, they can charge what they like - supply and demand..
wrksux wrote:i was told 500 for just the cert from one guy thats not even looking at the car or writeing the report.
$500 should be everything - report and cert... someone is making bux...
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:13 pm
by sierrajim
bogged wrote:wrksux wrote:... told me if worst comes to worst they can engineer it for 850
boy, have they gone up - but new rules, they can charge what they like - supply and demand..
wrksux wrote:i was told 500 for just the cert from one guy thats not even looking at the car or writeing the report.
$500 should be everything - report and cert... someone is making bux...
Its called public liability
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:43 pm
by wrksux
Its still cheaper than new barwork all round
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:47 pm
by muppet_man67
wrksux wrote:Its still cheaper than new barwork all round
would 10mm really make it not work at all? I cant imagine it would even be noticable. otherwise how hard is it to redrill all the bar work mounting 10mm lower.?
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:01 pm
by wrksux
sliders, would stop doors opening, rear bar was built for a 2" body lift.
that and im not the most mechanicly minded person
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:06 pm
by muppet_man67
ring cheezy and ask him what options there are. it might not cost much to alter this stuff.
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:19 pm
by wrksux
well finally vicroads has someone semi competent.
the lift blocks are fine they want someone to inspect the brake/steering mods extended lines ect so if a mech is happy with the way the mod was done its legal.
geez it only took 4 hours for them to tell me
still not sure what this means for me, the mech is unsure about the failsafe built into the steering shaft because it has been lengthend.
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:21 pm
by Jimbo
I dont think it is up to the mechanic to tell whether or not the mods are safe. That would be an engineers job.
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:30 pm
by wrksux
thats what they told him
they make up rules for everyperson depending on the day/time you call.
if you see a rampage on the news at vicroads.....
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:35 pm
by F'n_Rover
bogged wrote:
I dont see why people say go elsewhere, whats wrong with being 100% legal?
Alot of mechanics are overly paranoid and go to extremes to knock something back. I had a look at the actual vicroads roadworthy requirements
they are very fair and logical. If only mechanics would do the same and read up.
Shop around.
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:50 pm
by rochrd
good news, glad ur rigs legal,
if ur selling ur car rwc is lot harder,
but if its urs and u get rwc it can b passed and vicroads dont even want to c it, they only want the paperwork.
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:31 pm
by wrksux
The guys at Alex's Automotive in Eltham, have been great, specially Chris. he went out of his way to help me. He wasnt trying to be anal but was concerd about the saftey of the rig and mine in an accident and also the potential legal challenges, and the fact that vicroads cant tell anyone the smae bloody thing