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MORE POWER
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 2:44 pm
by GRIMACE
Ok people as you may already now I have a 3.5L V8 efi engine with extractors and a mandrel bent exhaust high flow muffler yada yada.
I WANT MORE POWER........
I DONT WANNA CHANGE THE ENGINE (unless its a straight swap, one in one out)........
What would people reccomend I do next.............. if anything.........
You see I will have all the suspension stuff sorted as soon as i get the rovertym arms, and the slotted bushes from Sam (thanks MATE
).
So i need to make plan for something to do next or else I will get bored.........
Fire away chaps.......................
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 3:28 pm
by N*A*M
lose some weight. take out things you don't need (seats, carpet, inside panels and trim, stereo, aircon, etc...) improves accelerating, braking, climbing, descending, cruising... awesome mod!
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 3:33 pm
by GRIMACE
Well I dont wanna lose any more weight.............. But yeah I might ket rid of everything except the driver seat and pedals and steering wheel........... Mount the seat on a custome chassis mount....GOOD IDEA thanks mate
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 4:14 pm
by TuffRR
Just drive the fawker!!! Building up a rig won't make you drive any better, get out there and learn what you need and what you dont need!
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 4:23 pm
by Britswed
(rubs hands together)
How much you want to spend lol
Cheers Mal
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 4:24 pm
by landy_man
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 4:24 pm
by landy_man
Britswed wrote::twisted: (rubs hands together)
How much you want to spend lol
Cheers Mal
he wants to spend nothing
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:15 pm
by mickrangie
i'll sell you my brand spanking new (1500Km) 3.9 for a small fortune and some body parts (fingers)
What kinda rig r u building? Speedster or 4wd :n00b: ?
It all comes back to budget, tyres, terrain and purpose ,
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:32 pm
by suzidisco
how much for the 3.9
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:32 pm
by landy_man
mickrangie wrote:It all comes back to budget, tyres, terrain and purpose ,
well said
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 5:40 pm
by mickrangie
suzidisco wrote:how much for the 3.9
5k ready to rumble!! (long motor)
without a/c pump / powerstearing / alt / and injectors and intake manafold and anything I want. PM if you are really interested
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 6:58 pm
by GRIMACE
It doesnt come down to shit, I just want abit more power ! ! !
I just wanna know how i can get that little bit more power not be asked what i wanna use the power for
OK i have 13000 dollars to spend...................
No really guys I was really hoping some one could tell me something USEFUL
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 7:13 pm
by landy_man
I think Supercheap Auto sell KW spray. A liberal coating on your headers will be good for another 20KW or so and only costs $9.95
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 8:06 pm
by GRIMACE
COOL I already got a couple of stickers that added about 46Kw Man it help for getting up the gutter.
Might paint just the bonnet red..... so it goez alittle bit faster
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 8:41 pm
by landy_man
in all seriousness, ensuring your engine is breathing well is important... perhaps K&N style filter...
pull your heads off and give them a bit of a cleanup, the cast is not real neat....
then a new cam which is cheap
then aftermarket ECU
etc. etc....
There are so many things you can do... But you need money..
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 7:29 am
by Bodge
Lots of good info here:
http://www.v8engine.com/homepage.htm
But I agree with TuffRR - finish something and drive the damn thing.... You may just find that your priorities change....
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:08 am
by GRIMACE
I got the K& N Airlfilter.........and am gonna be purchasin a rANGIE sPARE SNORKEL soon hopefully.
I have been findin interest in changin the cam as most of them increase torque at lower revs......perfect 4 wheelin, as you know the Range rovers Peak HP is set pretty high in the rev range I would like to lower it abit
Can some one please detail me alittle bit On what is involved in changin the cam It sounds like fun (keeps me occupied for a week.... I am a slow worker
) and also on what cams are the best for what usage ? ? ?
Cheers Boys & Girls &.......LandyMan
...............
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:21 am
by GRIMACE
Ow b4 I do anything, I would like to get info on the cost the purchase a 4.6 rover engine ? As they have around 165Kw thats afair bit more than what I currently have.
I can then sell my old donk for peanuts (better than gettin nuthin back) and correct me if I am wrong but the 4.6 will bolt straight in on my Auto Gearbox.................
Also I can buy the 4.6 and have it on the stand and do the modifications and tuning and then fit it and fine tune it...................hmmmm sounds like fun
If it is a easy fit then I might not spend the cash on my 3.5 cause i willl only lose it when I change it over.
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 8:50 am
by bazzle
Talk to Peter at AMV
www.amv.com.au
4.6 good torquer
bazzle
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 9:15 am
by mickrangie
4.6 will cost you between 6K to 10K depending who does it and what price you can get the bits for.
4.6 will use yr heads but you might need a new water pump, n shite
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 9:24 am
by -Mick-
I'm assuming it's your dd dude so don't spend too much on it. Stick to the usual intake/ exhaust mods and complimentary cam work and you'll have a donk with more torque, power and a nice sound for sensible $. It'll be a bit more efficient too (but rangies ar already cheap to run
)
If that ain't enough get a head job/ stroke it etc. Then do the same for your motor
Save your $ for important shite like women and booze
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 9:26 am
by GRIMACE
FARK looks like back to the cam idea........
Unless I can get a 4.6 cheaper...dont think so though
So info on the cam side of things PLEASE
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 9:49 am
by mickrangie
change a cam....
basiclly the whole front part of the motor radiator, grill etc.
also rule of thumb new cam new lifters... unless you don't want yr cam to last..
good luck
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 1:35 pm
by GRIMACE
Well i am gonna look further into the cams there is so many different ones...... What do you guy recomend and any number on a good supplier around the Gold Coast ? ? ?
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 2:40 pm
by the naked Duck
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 3:13 pm
by GRIMACE
YEAH I TRY to get in incar film set up so when I roll the vehicle down a sheer 60degrees 10.2km slope you can catch glimse of the 12678 times the car rolls.
I have spoke with chiptorque and I have herd from people saying that the replacment chips arnt all that good ? ? ? Were as the complet Haltech ECU thingy is ment to be pretty good, but for the price a different cam sounds like the way to go
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 3:18 pm
by GRIMACE
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 4:14 pm
by mickrangie
dynatec 17a i fink
or a wade cam are good fanks too
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 4:33 pm
by Britswed
We use Dynotec have never had trouble & nice cams I recon a PC216(stage 1) for you Anthony 1500>4000 nice and torquey
There Stage 2 goes from 2000rpm>4800 and is a PC217
Cheers Mal
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 5:02 pm
by Aquarangie
For my 3.9, a bit of port and polishing as well as a decent cam did the trick. I have yet to fit extractors, but with the later style manifold set-up, I haven't really botherd to go ahead with it. The manifolds on the EFI Rangies are pretty bloody good anyway and have plenty of room to breathe I reckon!!
I know a bloke in the Rangie Club whop has had a Uni-Chip fitted to his Rangie and found this improved performance out of sight. For about $1200 I think these are available and I'm not sure who does one down your way, but worth looking into. Much cheaper than the 4.6 option.
My 3.9 goes well and I ain't toucking it. Done 262,000 kms on the bottom end and still comes uptrumps with a compression test!!! Needs an oil change soon I suppose (been a tight arse and have let it lapsed for a while).
Anyway, best of luck,
Aquarangie
If it ain't broke, leave the bastard alone!!!!!