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Competition Recovery Points

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:19 am
by Jameslux
Are the two recovery points on the bottom of most bull bars (usualy a hole in a ridge at the bottom of the bar) suitable for competition recovery points if I put a rated shackle in them?

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 10:51 am
by chunderlicious
sorry for the hijack but id like to know if the welded on peices of steel people put on the back are suitable or "approved".

i thought the bullbar ones werent good to use as they are just tie down or tow points.

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:00 am
by Jameslux
chunderlicious wrote:sorry for the hijack but id like to know if the welded on peices of steel people put on the back are suitable or "approved".

i thought the bullbar ones werent good to use as they are just tie down or tow points.
Thats Cool. I know the comp specs talk about suitable recovery points. But what is suitable?

Also wondering if the square towbar revocery points are acceptable?

Re: Competition Recovery Points

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:29 am
by GUJohnno
Jameslux wrote:Are the two recovery points on the bottom of most bull bars (usualy a hole in a ridge at the bottom of the bar) suitable for competition recovery points if I put a rated shackle in them?
I wouldn't use them for any recovery situation. The aftermarket tow hooks bolted directly to the chassis are good for most needs depending on how serious the comps will be. I'm sure there are other solutions out there tho

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:51 am
by thunder
Also wondering if the square towbar revocery points are acceptable?

if you mean you pull out the towbar and put the strap in there with the pin thru it.
yes i have seen these used at comps in and around sydney.BUT in saying this they now ask for 2 recovery points at front and rear

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:53 am
by Jameslux
Nah, I was meaning the proper attachment with the shackle.

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 11:56 am
by suzuki boy
I think the points are only ment for tie down and arb even say they arn't recovery points. So i'd say no. but i don't now fopr sure

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 2:44 pm
by MQSWBUTE
why not look at pictures of these comp cars andwork it out
arb gq bar fitted with recovery hooks

depends of the event also winch challenge event dont really recovery hooks unless in teams of 2

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 4:10 pm
by TURBO GQ
nah there diffently not rated recovery point!

get rated hooks or pin eyes but make sure that they are rated.

saftey first ;)

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:36 pm
by wrksux
Well I was going to fit some front recovery hooks to my rig this weekend, but becuase the bullbar has been modded to suit a 2" lift and looks to be welded in there :oops:

I want to know could i use these points to recover from, my 4.3t shackles wont fit through but some smaller 3 ton ones should i hope. well anyway can this be used safely as a recovery point?

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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 5:51 pm
by RockyF75
wrksux wrote:Well I was going to fit some front recovery hooks to my rig this weekend, but becuase the bullbar has been modded to suit a 2" lift and looks to be welded in there :oops:

I want to know could i use these points to recover from, my 4.3t shackles wont fit through but some smaller 3 ton ones should i hope. well anyway can this be used safely as a recovery point?

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that doesn't look like more then 4-5mm steel :shock: I wouldn't trust it. If you can't bolt a proper hook on go to a reputable fabrication joint, and get them to fab something up and weld it on. Stress the importance that it's done properly, and suitable for many tonnes of force, pick a number, I dunno, 5t?? More than the 4.25 shcakles.

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:02 pm
by wrksux
the bolt holes in the chassis rail go through on both sides but because of the welded plate for the bullbar being moded :bad-words: i cant put a bolt all the way through and dont trust the bolt only going through one side of the chassis.

Any ideas on what i can do to fix this, Ie who i can go to and get it done?

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:44 pm
by chunderlicious
the bolt though one side of the chassis isnt that bad, thats what rockys have and most hiluxes

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:58 pm
by wrksux
the bolts on the hooks i looked at were to long to do that with, so where would i find the correct bolts/length for em?

Thanks for ya help btw

Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:44 pm
by chunderlicious
i always use brisbane fasteners, but as your not in queensland id just recomend any good bolt and fastener shop.

http://www.xtreme4x4sport.com.au/docume ... e_2006.pdf

this is the official rules of Extreme Winch Challenge in queensland and it has most of the recovery requirement in it

good luck