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Disco 3 compressor

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2006 9:08 pm
by klrevo
gday guys,

delving into the unknown here,

but can anyone tell me what the flow rate of the compressor out of a 2006 disco is??? the comp for the airbag setup, would it be worthwile to run as a comp for locker and tyres into a small tank???

cheers guys

dean ;)

comp

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:50 pm
by klrevo
anyone.....

dean ;)

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:12 pm
by gordon
Are you considering this as additional plumbing into the existing comp on a D3 (bad idea!), or using a comp from a D3 to run lockers/tank on another vehicle?

Cheers,

Gordon

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:18 pm
by Hardy
If the EAS Rangie Compressors are anything to go by then answer to filling tyres would be NO, not really.
They have a 10L (approx) reservoir, fine for pumping a bicycle tyre or running a locker provided you have a regulator of some sort (set between 80-105 PSI)
4WD Tyres - would take WAAAYYY too long.

http://www.rangerovers.net/outfitting/air/arbair.html
It's old info, but gives a bit of an idea...

The DII's with SLS in the rear didn't even have a reservoir. (AFAIK)

I'd say the D3 would have to have a tank though, having to run 4 corners worth of springs.

But the MAJOR ISSUE with tapping into LR on-board air suspension is the 'dry' air within. Again, I'm not sure about D3's but the EAS Rangies have a regenerative dryer - carbon particles or something that absorb the moisture by air flowing one way which then regenerate by having exhaust (dry) air flow back the other way, taking the collected moisture with it.

In otherwords - it's designed as a sealed system. You have to be careful you don't 'overload' the regenerative dryer by allowing more 'incoming' air than 'outgoing' air.

The small volume required for a locker shouldn't pose a problem though.

I actually ditched my EAS Compressor and set a solenoid valve up in it's place - to feed air in from my new BOSS compressor and 15L tank in the boot.
This way I have a big arse compressor & tank to do tyres (primary circut) that also feeds the EAS & 10L tank - which is on it's seperate circut.
Works good too...

I pulled the old compressor out because I have grand plans to make a pressurised water tank for the camper trailer - but that's another story....


Hardy

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:09 pm
by klrevo
gordon wrote:Are you considering this as additional plumbing into the existing comp on a D3 (bad idea!), or using a comp from a D3 to run lockers/tank on another vehicle?

Cheers,

Gordon
considering it to use for lockers and tyres on another vehicle, i have no idea what the compressor is like, im after one of the BOSS compressors, but there is a D3 compressor and 20L tank out of a D3 going cheaper, and im just after some sort of info on the comp,

how big it is
whats the flow rate
is it worth it
physically how big is it?
i cant find anything on it

thanks heaps guys for your help though :)

dean ;)

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:38 pm
by RangingRover
If you want to do tyres, there is no question that an endless air setup using an air con compressor is the way to go - i can put 10 psi into my 32's in about as many seconds, using a 10 litre tank and 150psi pressure.

There is a thread in this forum somewhere with a lot of discussion on setup of a homemade endless air, some useful info in there.

endless

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:43 pm
by klrevo
thanks ragingrover,

i understand the benefits of an endless air system, but i dont want one, iv nowhere to put the second ac compressor, i want to keep my ac, and all the bracketry would have to be custom and i just dont want to go down that road, im quite happy to stay with a 12v compressor, just wondering how good the compressor is out of a D3,

has anyone got any pictures??? im failing dismally to find info on them....

its cheaper than a boss compressor which should pump out somwhere near 99L/min free flow, but if the D3 one is nuthing like that then its not worth it i guess, i was just thinking because theyre used for the same thing perhaps were similiar, as i know there are many airbag setup comrpessors that are, but are usually expensive, but the D3 one is cheaper...

if anyones got pics or info on flow thatd be awesome :D

dean ;)

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 5:58 pm
by Reddo
What you fittinh it into?

We fitted a Sanden AC unit (Endless air type) on the Rover 3.5 and it was sooo easy. All we did was make a couple of 90degree brackets that bolted onto the exiting AC pump mounting with an old Holden slotted arm for adjustment, and ran a belt from the 'second' pulley on the original AC unit up to the 'new' air unit. In other word the second ait sits right on top of the original AC unit and work a treat. Cost, around 30 bucks for the AC unit and a switch.

endlkess

Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:34 pm
by klrevo
reddo, planing on going into a shorty paj,

not heaps of room in the engine bay andmost of it already taken up with other crapola, so a 12v compressor in the cab is what im thinking, iv seen a few piccies of landrover compressors and most seem like the blue tongue/big red type compressors, if this is the case i will stay away from the D3 compressor, but if it was something like the boss model i would be interested,

thanks heaps guys for your time and info, feel free to keep it coming, i might have a further look into an endless system, just doesnt fascinate me, for some reason i dont wish to go down this route, but i shall have anither look

dean ;)

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2006 5:12 pm
by gordon
I've pulled mine out a couple of times. It's physically a bit biggerr than the older ARB compressor, not quite as big as a MaxAir.

I think it's specc'd at around 250psi working pressure, max 330 or so, but I don't know what the flow rate is like.

One problem would be that the compressor is controlled by the ECU, via two heat sensors, extra valves and a monitor for air moisture. I'm not sure how it would perform if you weren't doing a similar monitor of it's performance.

Cheers,

Gordon