Outer Limits 4x4 Board

I'm just about to buy some 42inch swampers from OPW and want to know who in Newcastle will fit & balance these tyres?

The shop that currently balances my 37s said that 38s are about as big as they will go.

Thanks in advance.
Cheers Mick.

I would probably ring Out Of Town, though the don't do that sort of service they are very helpful over the phone and will be able to send you to someone who will.

high n mighty wrote:I would probably ring Out Of Town, though the don't do that sort of service they are very helpful over the phone and will be able to send you to someone who will.

Thats not a bad idea Craig they have just opened another shop which is only 1km up the road from work too.

Cheers Mick.

I would be ringing around the large truck (semi's) tyre fitters to see if they can and when I had my 37"s the tyre fitter couldnt balance that size so he just used what he told me they use in truck tyres the granile (sp?) product called EQUAL seemed to wrk fine but not sure how it would go with a tyre so much larger

try this link had this sent to me ages ago (by avgas_502 off outers)

https://www.expeditionexchange.com/equal/


Dan

A1 wrote:I would be ringing around the large truck (semi's) tyre fitters to see if they can and when I had my 37"s the tyre fitter couldnt balance that size so he just used what he told me they use in truck tyres the granile (sp?) product called EQUAL seemed to wrk fine but not sure how it would go with a tyre so much larger

try this link had this sent to me ages ago (by avgas_502 off outers)

https://www.expeditionexchange.com/equal/


Dan

Thanks mate. O'neals tyres at Belmont where using that stuff for a while and put it in my cooper STs when I first got them. It seemed to work fine on them. So that might be worth a go if all else fails.

Cheers Mick.

Yep thats who I used to fit up my 37"s Mtrs and also buy my (now sold) 315's mtrs ...


worth a try

What is this "equal" stuff, I have set of tyres that are too out of balance to balance with lead weights. Maybe this is an option

HI-11-UX wrote:What is this "equal" stuff, I have set of tyres that are too out of balance to balance with lead weights. Maybe this is an option

When I had it fitted to my patrol they put a bag of it in each tyre and when I reached about 60km/h it levels out inside the tyre balancing all the wheels.

There was one problem I found with it though it blocks up your valves and makes letting down your tyres a pain in the ass.

After doing about 5000 km I replaced my valves and they where fine.

I don't know wheather it would solve your problem though maybe your rims are starting to og out of shape. This happened with the original rims that where on my GQ.

Cheers Mick.

Where do you guys currently go to get your tyres balanced ?
I need to get my 35's balanced.

Hekta wrote:Where do you guys currently go to get your tyres balanced ?
I need to get my 35's balanced.

I get mine balanced at Tyre Plus Gateshead phone 49209099

These guys are only pretty new and are next to Pep Parts in Gateshead. They actually specialise in 4wds and are Maxi tyre dealers. They will balance up until about 38s.

Cheers Mick.

why dont ya get Pete to fit and balance them when you pick em up

hi-luxmadness wrote:why dont ya get Pete to fit and balance them when you pick em up

I'm going to fit the new tyres to rims I currently have on my patrol which are bead locked and the rims i'm getting off Pete i'm putting my MTR's on.

Unforunatly I can only get to Sydney on weekends and the guys Pete gets to do his don't work on weekends.

Cheers Mick.

Mick. wrote:

HI-11-UX wrote:What is this "equal" stuff, I have set of tyres that are too out of balance to balance with lead weights. Maybe this is an option

When I had it fitted to my patrol they put a bag of it in each tyre and when I reached about 60km/h it levels out inside the tyre balancing all the wheels.

There was one problem I found with it though it blocks up your valves and makes letting down your tyres a pain in the ass.


Cheers Mick.

When you buy equal they should supply a special valve that stops them blocking up.

65Mog wrote:

Mick. wrote:

HI-11-UX wrote:What is this "equal" stuff, I have set of tyres that are too out of balance to balance with lead weights. Maybe this is an option

When I had it fitted to my patrol they put a bag of it in each tyre and when I reached about 60km/h it levels out inside the tyre balancing all the wheels.

There was one problem I found with it though it blocks up your valves and makes letting down your tyres a pain in the ass.


Cheers Mick.

When you buy equal they should supply a special valve that stops them blocking up.

They probably do now but mine was one of the first they did as a trial run. Thats if they still use it.

I think it's mainly used for the little buss boxes with 20 inch wheels that don't want weights on their wheels.

Cheers Mick.

Stick on patch weights are another option. Weights that you stick inside the tyre.

Drawback is fitting and balancing time. As you have to fit the tyre. Spin it up on the balancing machine. Work out where it needs weight. Remove the tyre from the rim. Patch weight it. Refit the tyre. Spin it up again. Repeat til balanced.

But when sorted they are great. My 38 TSLs balanced up nicely.

Shorty40 wrote:Stick on patch weights are another option. Weights that you stick inside the tyre.

Drawback is fitting and balancing time. As you have to fit the tyre. Spin it up on the balancing machine. Work out where it needs weight. Remove the tyre from the rim. Patch weight it. Refit the tyre. Spin it up again. Repeat til balanced.

But when sorted they are great. My 38 TSLs balanced up nicely.

Unfortuately that wouldn't work for me as i'm fitting interal beadlocks and it work be a pain to balance like that.

Cheers Mick.

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You will be hearing form me soon.

By the way how many bags would I need for 5 X 42 x 15 on 15inch rims & 5 X 37 X 12.5 on 15 inch rims:?:

Cheers Mick.

dude the equal powder stuff is good if you dont constantly air down and up your tires. cause the water in the air hose will make the powder coaggulate. and not work. then you will need to clean out your tire and start again. with cost more money. i run 37" boggers on bead locks and all i did is put 5 golf balls in each tire. i can run the car at 110kms and not a hint of wobble. with 42's try and put about 7-8 golf balls in and give it a try first, before you pay $20 for a bag of equal. and with the size you are running, you will probably need about 6 bags. it adds up. just go to ready cash and buy some second hand golf balls or do what i did and nick em from the driving range in cardiff.

Mick
You will need 1 bag of MAGNUM for each tyre.

Duff
Your concerns regarding water, and we all know how bad on board compressors are with condensation build up, are solved as the dessicant in MAGNUM will ensure that the MAGNUM in your tyres remains dry, free-flowing and clump free. However, it is important to use dry when MAGNUM is initially installed.
Also you mentioned the use of golf balls as a balancing aid. These and many other items, (ball bearings, water/antifreeze mix) have been tried by others but are not specifically designed as a balancing aid. MAGNUM has been specifically designed to balance your tyres without harming them as there is virtually nothing that can affect negatively the performance of a tyre. All the materials used to make MAGNUM are inert, and do not have any negative effect on the interior of the tyre, that is, they do not chafe the inner liner, or cause any extra wear of the liner.

Just a quick question on both these methods. I have a couple of patches on the sidewalls of my MTR/s and i'm wondering would both these methods still balance them

Cheers Mick.

Mick
I can see no reason why MAGNUM will not work in a tyre that has some repairs as MAGNUM is designed to automatically adjust to changes, such as patches used to make tyre repairs.

... and how do I get the sucker into my tubes?

RoldIt
MAGNUM is a dry free-flowing compound consisting of smooth, specially coated microbeads and other materials. You simply add MAGNUM to the aplicator tool and pump it in thru the valve core.

AutoBalanceMan wrote:Mick
I can see no reason why MAGNUM will not work in a tyre that has some repairs as MAGNUM is designed to automatically adjust to changes, such as patches used to make tyre repairs.

Thanks for that mate. You'll be hearing from me soon.

Cheers Mick.