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New ZOOK - build up Q's

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:34 pm
by vicelore
hey guys well to let all u know who helped me with lookin for my very own 1st zook i baught one tongiht :) its a

1991 SUZUKI SIERRA QX JX
Red 2dr SOFTTOP Manual 4cyl 1.3L; 103,000kms

paid $5200

probaly a bit expensive but was in EC and look at them ks.

one thing i was wondering .

on the back over the suzuki sign it said city

also said " suzuki city " on the mudflaps and spare wheel cover.

i looked at the sign on the back . it didnt appear to be a sticker put on by a car yard as a gimic .

are there any diference ?? i get a extra ash tray ?
i havent fucked up and baught a NT in discise ? its defently a WT isnt it ? as a 91 model ??

Cheers guys im really stoked about the purchase . so if someone can clear up this worry ill be free to fully enjoi the her.

also if anyone konws how i would go about removing the "City " on the back that would be great! Cheers.

kdkdk

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:19 pm
by patzuki
I believe the city emblem is only from the dealer which was City Suzuki. If its a 91 model it will definitely be a wide track, welcome to the suzi world! If you'd like mor e info, why dont you come down to the suzi club, were meeting tommorrow night in Glen Iris at 8pm.
Click on the link below to get details.
Use a heat gun to get rid of the sticker!

Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:24 pm
by vicelore
Hey man would love to . im pickin it up on fri so i will have to organize it for next time . i am defently lookin into joinin club tho .

thats awesome news about the city thing kinda had me a little worried. but THANKS for clearing my mind.

as for taking it off it looked like it was under the varnish no actualy a sticker i will try tho. Cheers again guys im stoked about it !!!

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 12:45 pm
by just cruizin'
AAAAArrrrrrrr.

The very rare Suzuki City Sierra.

Specially designed with Harold Scrubby in mind.

The whole car is a crumple zone to be used between trucks and pedestrians to reduce falities. fitted with a transfer case with no low range, originally with no softtop so other drivers could throw rubbish into it rather then onto the curb and only available it dayglow red for high visability and warning for other road users.

Don't know why you bought one in excellant condition though once the bug bites hard enough you'll be throwing it at rocks soon enough.

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:20 pm
by vicelore
MAN u made my heart stop . so the model comes with a fucked up transfer case ? how much will that cost to replace ? what do u mean by crumble zone is the chassie built weaker ?

is there any other downsides to the model as i am planning on turning it into a offroad project car.

i could probaly stop the payment but i will lose my deposit ?

any more down points ???? please be urgent if u can this has made my head explode. WTF

ZOOK

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:58 pm
by noelb1
he is pulling your leg

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:06 pm
by vicelore
YEA THANK GOD

i got a pm sayin that and as for u just cruizin' grr making a new suzi owners guts drop.

not a nice feeling mate.

is there actualy a City model ? or is it just a add on by the caryard ? just interested

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:08 pm
by mistaboz
Just the car yard that sold the car.

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 3:47 pm
by just cruizin'
SORRY, I thought it funny at the time.

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:09 pm
by vicelore
its all good funy now i know i havent screwed up. just lookin forward to gettin it on a vertical angle now.

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:10 pm
by zukirolly
hehe, i still think it's funny!

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:16 pm
by =SKB=
zukirolly wrote:hehe, i still think it's funny!
Me too :D

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:31 pm
by Pinball
=SKB= wrote:
zukirolly wrote:hehe, i still think it's funny!
Me too :D
me three.... so what other pearls should we pass him??

:twisted: :twisted:

Spock

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:35 pm
by vicelore
hehe no pearls please hehe really had me worried .

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:43 pm
by vicelore
ok boys

iv got about 1600 to spend this month on the new zuke ..

i think it really needs new tiers as iv seen bigger on a shopping trollie .

im not that worried if i cant get the biggest i was thinking fairly lumpy mud 30s or 31s (ps i know nothing about tyers.)

not to sure how much that would cost i would think around 700-900 ?

then maybey new shackles or leafs with the rest to let me fit them in ??

this is just a guess but i would really like some advice. maybey some urls of items or prices . thanks guys

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:00 am
by just cruizin'
Watch the for sale section, put what you want in the wanted section, join a club and speak to the other members and buy everything second hand.

Wheels and tyres can be around the $300 - $500, springs around $250 - $300. If you have a spare $300 get a reversible body lift of Gutless on this forum. You may be lucky enough to find a diff with a locker for about $400 - 500. Shackles you can make yourself for about $20-30. Extended brake lines $100. Remove your sway bar FREE. Front bar to suit body lift, mine cost me $50 to make. Rollbar if it doesn't have one, the B pillars are there for nothing more then to keep the soft top above your head, cost I'm not sure probably about $50 - $200 second hand.

Then save up for some transfer gears, (I wasn't far off when I said your sierra wasn't fitted with low range, because there is hardly any difference between standard Hi/Low and once you fit larger tyres all Sierra struggle with gearing offroad)

I'm a great fan of keeping things reversible so that I can revert back to stock if the need arises, the only thing I've done so far is cut of the front bumper mounts.

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:58 am
by vicelore
hey man . nice answer

so tyers are the top of my list . dunno if id go second hand i dont mind paying for new ones. but what mods will i need to fit 31s in ??

is just new leaf sprigs enough ? what type shoudl i go for i have herd allot baout ome but they are only 1.5 inch lift is that enough ?

if i need shackles aswell how hard are they to make i have hardly any welding exp. and i take it they need to be pretty strong.

Cheers mate

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:05 am
by robsjimny
Suzuki club of victoria


http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/Suzuki_4WD_Club/

Great people there relax and always looking for new members

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:15 am
by grimbo
vicelore wrote:hey man . nice answer

so tyers are the top of my list . dunno if id go second hand i dont mind paying for new ones. but what mods will i need to fit 31s in ??

is just new leaf sprigs enough ? what type shoudl i go for i have herd allot baout ome but they are only 1.5 inch lift is that enough ?

if i need shackles aswell how hard are they to make i have hardly any welding exp. and i take it they need to be pretty strong.

Cheers mate
spend some time going through the bible at the top of this section as all the se questions are answered there. Also as suggested I'd recommend getting in touch with the Suzuki Club and get along to a meeting. I don't reckon you should jump straight into modding it too much as you more than likely will end up doing things twice. No point getting a set of 30" tyres when you realise in 6 months you want 33s for example.

Learn how to drive the car and see what it is capable of, you will be surprised, but more importantly find out what you are capable of. You need to get afeel for what the car does and what sort of stuff you want to do. Then modify it to suit your needs and budget.

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:09 pm
by Klappers
grimbo wrote:
vicelore wrote:hey man . nice answer

so tyers are the top of my list . dunno if id go second hand i dont mind paying for new ones. but what mods will i need to fit 31s in ??

is just new leaf sprigs enough ? what type shoudl i go for i have herd allot baout ome but they are only 1.5 inch lift is that enough ?

if i need shackles aswell how hard are they to make i have hardly any welding exp. and i take it they need to be pretty strong.

Cheers mate
spend some time going through the bible at the top of this section as all the se questions are answered there. Also as suggested I'd recommend getting in touch with the Suzuki Club and get along to a meeting. I don't reckon you should jump straight into modding it too much as you more than likely will end up doing things twice. No point getting a set of 30" tyres when you realise in 6 months you want 33s for example.

Learn how to drive the car and see what it is capable of, you will be surprised, but more importantly find out what you are capable of. You need to get afeel for what the car does and what sort of stuff you want to do. Then modify it to suit your needs and budget.
what he said...even better, go for a ride in a modded rig, just sitting in the passenger seat. Feeling the car is more important learning which lines to take etc....

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:46 pm
by vicelore
*POST REMOVED* stupidity pending

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:13 pm
by Klappers
lol

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:05 pm
by muppet_man67
grimbo wrote:
vicelore wrote:hey man . nice answer

so tyers are the top of my list . dunno if id go second hand i dont mind paying for new ones. but what mods will i need to fit 31s in ??

is just new leaf sprigs enough ? what type shoudl i go for i have herd allot baout ome but they are only 1.5 inch lift is that enough ?

if i need shackles aswell how hard are they to make i have hardly any welding exp. and i take it they need to be pretty strong.

Cheers mate
spend some time going through the bible at the top of this section as all the se questions are answered there. Also as suggested I'd recommend getting in touch with the Suzuki Club and get along to a meeting. I don't reckon you should jump straight into modding it too much as you more than likely will end up doing things twice. No point getting a set of 30" tyres when you realise in 6 months you want 33s for example.

Learn how to drive the car and see what it is capable of, you will be surprised, but more importantly find out what you are capable of. You need to get afeel for what the car does and what sort of stuff you want to do. Then modify it to suit your needs and budget.
I would actually disagree. a set of 30" retread muddies will set you back about 400, you will only need lifted springs to fit them, you wont have to worry about gearing immediatly. However you will be surprised where they will take you, and in the mean time whilst you are having loads of fun with those tyres you can be thinking about and learning about exactly what you want to achieve with your car. Yes you may want to fit 33" tyres on your car but realisticly you would do this as part of a $5000 build, or get evreything else on your car, Ie gearing, lockers, rear springs in the front, bodylift and then once you have done all that, go out and spend $1200 on tyres. by the time you have got all this done, your retread muddies will be up for replacement anyway. (unless you already have the money.)

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:11 pm
by vicelore
yea thats what i was thinking i havent got 5000 atm nor am i experianced enough to know what to get.

but would like some basic mods as i said springs and tyers . that would be allright to start with . the main thing is the car looks quite dull with the stock wheels .

any sujestions on brands models ?

im kinda drawn between pepole . i seen a body lift kit in the 4 sale section for 300 and shackles for 120

would them 2 mods and some 30-31 inches be a nice start ?

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:14 pm
by just cruizin'
Great start and Peter (gutless) stuff is good quality and easy to fit.

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:17 pm
by muppet_man67
vicelore wrote:yea thats what i was thinking i havent got 5000 atm nor am i experianced enough to know what to get.

but would like some basic mods as i said springs and tyers . that would be allright to start with . the main thing is the car looks quite dull with the stock wheels .

any sujestions on brands models ?

im kinda drawn between pepole . i seen a body lift kit in the 4 sale section for 300 and shackles for 120

would them 2 mods and some 30-31 inches be a nice start ?
$300 is a bit much I think gutless from this site does reversible body lifts for less then that. I would recomend just getting some lifted springs and tyres. 30" will be an easier fit then 31" and gearing will be more adequate. shackles you can make yourself, come along to a club meeting and someone might help you do it. If you dont like the look of your wheels buy some black spray paint and diy.

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:20 pm
by =SKB=
Have you taken the car off road yet? Take it for a drive on some fire trails or something and get an idea of how it goes and learn as you go. I don't see a point to modifying (as in improving) any car if you don't notice the difference once it's done, due to not driving it (offroad) before hand. Why buy any tyre over the one's you have now if you won't know what the difference off road will be?

Go out wheeling, find it's limits, then improve it.

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:29 pm
by vicelore
im not talkin about gettin the tyers tomorow . i am pickin up the car tomorow night and yup im sure ill be driving it all weekend .

i just like planning ahead and i havent seen one of your guys rides with stock wheels .

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 7:32 pm
by =SKB=
Mine's on stock(ish) tyre's at the moment. Doing alot of beach driving at the moment. Big tyres are good but their also expensive, not just in price but in damage they can cause to driveline parts if you get carried away :twisted:

Have fun on the weekend with your Zook mate :D

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:03 pm
by vicelore
well i will be looking into it . no sujestions from anyone ? is a 2icnh body lift and shakles / 30s a bad idea for a start ?? cheers guys