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Oil selection for the 1hz?

Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:33 am
by BadLux
Hey did my first oil change in the 80 yesterday and on the advice of the guy at Repco put Penrite HPR 20-60 in her. I had planned on buying HPR 15-50 but the guy said that because my 1hz had done 313,000 it would most likely burn oil if i put the 15-50 in..

Well I did the change and I swear the engine seems like its running rougher, noisier at high revs etc. Then when I started her this morning it took ALOT longer to crank over than it used to and it idled like shit for about 30 seconds before it slowly got better. WTF?

Should I drop the oil and put back in 15-50 instead or what?

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:51 pm
by mudmacaca
Cant hurt
Why dont you do a couple of oil changes one after the other say every 100 or 250k this way you will be giving it a good clean out it might remove a bit of the sludge build up that diesels get. I would also change the oil filter.
Your engine may have been rebuilt previously and not be as worn out as you expect. Had 480 000 on a sd25 before I got rid of her she was still going strong.

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:30 am
by Ruggers
you need 15/40w as the 1hzs are over head cams and the lifters wont pump up with the thicker stuff and in winter they wont even start we had the same problem with diesel jackeroos and petrol astras people putting what ever oil in and complaning that it hard to start or not starting. go back to repco and demand that you want the right oil and that they better hope that the wrong oil hasn't damgaed you big end bearings

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:56 am
by dow50r
Repco have gone outside of the manufacturers recommendations....the 1hz is a 15w40 motor, and 500000kms is a normal run out of one. Drop the oil asap....thicker oil causes more trouble than its worth...
Andrew

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 10:06 am
by Shadow
agree

go back to repco and tell the guy hes a fuckwit

300thousand is nothing. That guy needs to be sacked.

thicker oil can cause damage as others have said. I would go to toyota see what they say, and then goto repco and tell them exactly what toyota said. Speak to the store manager of repco and he should give you the correct oil.

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:18 am
by BadLux
how bout penrites 15-50 hpr oil is this alright to run in the 1hz,

I'm pissed off now that I spent $80 on 10l of oil that I've gotta drop now and change again. What a rooster!

Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:03 pm
by Shadow
BadLux wrote:how bout penrites 15-50 hpr oil is this alright to run in the 1hz,

I'm pissed off now that I spent $80 on 10l of oil that I've gotta drop now and change again. What a rooster!
Honestly i would stick with a good 15w45 oil.

If you go back to repco, ask to speak to the manager, and tell him toyota has said it can damage your engine and that you want to be compensated for his staff's bad advice. Say you just want a refund. Then buy the correct oil either from them or from somewhere else.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:12 pm
by BadLux
Spoke to a few mechanics and they said it should be fine with the thicker oil atleast for the 5000k's anyway then put the thinner 15-45w oil in on the next change. When I asked about the big end bearings and the thicker oil they said it was better for them??

So instead of causing a fuss and demanding a refund I'm just gonna wait till my next oil change and put the right oil in!! Hopefully it doesn't damage the motor but the mechanics I spoke to said that it's highly unlikely it would. Also going up to steep point in a month towing a boat so they said the thicker oil in the hot weather and under strain would be good anyway..

What do you think??

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:30 pm
by Shadow
BadLux wrote:Spoke to a few mechanics and they said it should be fine with the thicker oil atleast for the 5000k's anyway then put the thinner 15-45w oil in on the next change. When I asked about the big end bearings and the thicker oil they said it was better for them??

So instead of causing a fuss and demanding a refund I'm just gonna wait till my next oil change and put the right oil in!! Hopefully it doesn't damage the motor but the mechanics I spoke to said that it's highly unlikely it would. Also going up to steep point in a month towing a boat so they said the thicker oil in the hot weather and under strain would be good anyway..

What do you think??
Watch your oil pressure. if it gets too high it could blow the filter in half. This is common in 2H's when a thicker oil is used(60 weight). Not sure if they addressed it in the 1HZ.

also, make sure your top end is all getting lubricated aswell. Thicker oil wont travel as far.

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:18 pm
by mac1cruz
I use Rimula x15w/40 and change filter every 5000km and mines done 300000km and dosent use a drop of oil even on long trips...

Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:24 pm
by sniper
I use penrite 50w i think it is in my 1HD-T I have 290k on my clock at the moment.