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diff lockers

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:20 pm
by jsttry
Other than the commonly known Maxi Drive what other lockers are available for the County 110 Salisbur rear diffs that may be more cost effective? Can't justify $1500 plus fitting etc for a MaxiDrive.

Opposite Lock do a Detriot Locker, not sure on price though.

How bad would a welded diff be?

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:34 am
by red90
The problem is that you MUST get upgraded halfshafts as the stock ones will snap very quickly with a locker. Detroits are probably the cheapest real locker. Around $600 for the center plus $450 for shafts. If you are on a budget look around for second hand units.

The halfshafts are not big enough for a welded center. You would need to upsize to 30 or 35 spline alloy shafts for that.

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:33 am
by mickrangie
red90 wrote:The problem is that you MUST get upgraded halfshafts as the stock ones will snap very quickly with a locker. Detroits are probably the cheapest real locker. Around $600 for the center plus $450 for shafts. If you are on a budget look around for second hand units.

The halfshafts are not big enough for a welded center. You would need to upsize to 30 or 35 spline alloy shafts for that.


Not beeing a smart a$$ but a Detroit Lokka isnt a real lokka u cant turn it on and off it's a automatic..... and u will chew yr tyres out.
Detroit Locker
The Detroit Locker maximizes traction by delivering 100 percent of the torque to both drive wheels. It is engineered to keep both wheels in a constant drive mode, and has the ability to automatically allow wheel speed differentiation when required. Enthusiasts and professionals use the Detroit Locker in many off-road applications.
Go the Maxi!!

Mick

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:14 pm
by jsttry
already have the maxi drive axles when I got the car. I thought the point of the Detroit was like a LSD in a standard Holden/Ford. It allows limited slip when turning etc so you don't chew out tyres but give it the gass and both bite.

$600 is a lot cheaper than $1500.

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:37 pm
by andrew e
county rear axles are strong enough to handle a locker i reckon, salisbury ones are bigger than 90 and rangie ones remember.

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 8:39 pm
by mickrangie
jsttry wrote:already have the maxi drive axles when I got the car. I thought the point of the Detroit was like a LSD in a standard Holden/Ford. It allows limited slip when turning etc so you don't chew out tyres but give it the gass and both bite.

$600 is a lot cheaper than $1500.
Go the the Detroit web site they have a LSD type locker now...

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:58 pm
by jbell
jsttry I have a detroit in my 86 county, it was $1300 supplied &
fitted by Opp. Lock. I think there great, been in 2yrs with standard
axles, was running 34 simex but now running swamper Q78's
not quite 36 & all is good. The front has an ARB with jac mac axles.
A great combo that works well, I say go the detroit!

cheers Jeff

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:46 am
by red90
Detroits Lockers don't chew up tires. A Detroit is normally locked. When you turn, the outside wheel can force the diff to run faster on that side. They can sometimes do strange things, but IME, they are fine.

If you want a limitted slip get a Truetrac. Made by the same company, cheaper and the best style of limitted slip you can get.

Salisbury half shafts are the same sixe as all later model Rovers (1994 and newer). If you already have shafts, then a Detroit is the cheapest option for a "real" locker.

Posted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:18 am
by jericho
i have a detroit in the rear of my series 2a and think its great.its never made a noise which is audible above the engine.you dont have to think about whether to switch it on or not ,its always there.i notice it on the road coming out of a bend,the outer shaft re-engages and gives a slight nudge forwards.strengthened shafts are more or less essential.

Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 8:00 pm
by D110V8D
Detroits are a great locker. I dont know where the bad "hype' they sometimes get comes from, I never had any issues with the one I had. Staying locked on wet bitumen corners etc. Never happened to me.

Only thing I noticed was a slight clicking noise when turning in carparks etc at low speed, but who gives a toss about that.

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:26 am
by grundomat
sorry lads, just a layman here, but how do detroits compare to air or electric lockers, i am also trying to decide on what to do, as i am building a lifted, locked both ends, 88" 2A. Was a bit worried that maybe a detroit wouldn't give as much traction.

Thanks
Matt

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:22 am
by mopar rangie
Detroits are the go.i have been running one for over 10 years.cant fault it at all.ya dont chew tyers out faster at all.the newer ones work very smooth and you dont even feel it going in and out.just put it in and forget about it.to easy..

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:19 pm
by ISUZUROVER
jsttry wrote:already have the maxi drive axles when I got the car.
If you already have MD axles (and the long axle has the locking dog splines) then you have saved yourself about half the cost of the locker. An MD locker would probably be your cheapest option in this case.

If you have the old-style HD axles from Mal, then you will need to buy a new long axle - for about $400 (so about $1000 all up for the locker and one axle).

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:02 am
by red90
ISUZUROVER wrote:If you have the old-style HD axles from Mal, then you will need to buy a new long axle - for about $400 (so about $1000 all up for the locker and one axle).
Psst, Ben..... You just responded to a post from September!!

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:04 am
by red90
grundomat wrote:sorry lads, just a layman here, but how do detroits compare to air or electric lockers, i am also trying to decide on what to do, as i am building a lifted, locked both ends, 88" 2A. Was a bit worried that maybe a detroit wouldn't give as much traction.
Drive traction is as good as any locker. Just make sure you get aftermarket alloy 24 spline shafts.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:36 am
by GURU
ARB do a locker for them, infact you can get really fancy and get one for Dana 60 with 35 spline side gears, get some custom axles and flanges and stub axles and you'll have a super strong rear end.

But if you have MD axles now I would just get an ARB 24 spline locker

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 11:32 am
by ISUZUROVER
red90 wrote:
ISUZUROVER wrote:If you have the old-style HD axles from Mal, then you will need to buy a new long axle - for about $400 (so about $1000 all up for the locker and one axle).
Psst, Ben..... You just responded to a post from September!!
Thanks John - didn't notice it was a grave dig...