1st weeknd impressions and plans (some pics)

Post by **vicelore** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:45 pm

hey guys .

well its monday and after my 1st weekend with the new zook and about 9 hours spent exploring various local areas iv decided that i absolutly love my new toy.
what a great car my 1st impression on the freeway was that the engine was a little weak as i had trouble hittin 100ks .

but when i got offroad coudnt belive how tuff she is. didnt get bogged ounce and was on some decent stuff for my 1st time behind a 4x4. i think anyway. there was a few luxes there and she went nearly everywhere they did. there laughin went away pretty fast when i gave it to her through water up to the doors.
soakin my friends in the back seats . hehe

there was some rutts there i wasnt confidnet i could clear as its fully stock atm.

so my next plans. are to get some hight under her. i have been lookin around at some other peoples rigs .

would a nice first mod be some new springs and shocks . or option 2 body lift and shackles.

i am planning on gettin all of these but i dont know what to get first.

or should i be lookin at spoa i dont know much about it and wasnt even sure if its legal in vic ??

look forward to the info . cheers guys.

im also lookin into a GPS for some upcomming camping trips . any ideas on brands etc ?

ill chuck some pics up this afternoon. cant plug my phone in at work .

Post by **Bad JuJu** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 1:58 pm

Just drive it until you are confident, dont worry too much about changin stuff.
When you can drive in or around the ruts etc that you said you were not confident in, then think about chainging somthing.

My first and cheapest suggestion would be to remove the swaybar and get used to the change in handling on and off road.

Then things that keep the zook goin - diff & T-case breathers, snorkel. All relativly cheap. Engines and gears dont like mud or water.

I think I had more fun unmodified.

Post by **vicelore** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:06 pm

Hey

i wasnt confident beucase i didnt think she would make it in the rutts withougt the dif sittin on the middle mound . if the tyers/lift was high enough i would of jumped right in there.

the sway bar idea is interesting to me . but i really have no idea which part it is under there. how do i go about taking it off ?

any pics ?

what will this change ? Cheers man . i really love tinkering with stuff and have been doin this for years with computers so half the funn of having a 4x4 for me will be working on it.

Post by **muppet_man67** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 2:57 pm

vicelore wrote:Hey

i wasnt confident beucase i didnt think she would make it in the rutts withougt the dif sittin on the middle mound . if the tyers/lift was high enough i would of jumped right in there.

the sway bar idea is interesting to me . but i really have no idea which part it is under there. how do i go about taking it off ?

any pics ?

what will this change ? Cheers man . i really love tinkering with stuff and have been doin this for years with computers so half the funn of having a 4x4 for me will be working on it.

if you wernt confident in the ruts then you need bigger tyres. lift kits will be little advantage. get gut's body lift and fit some 30" muddies and ruts wont bother you. you should beable to get it together for about $600 a full suspension setup to allow you to run the tyres will cost your about $800 and you still wont have the tyres that it sounds like you want.

Post by **vicelore** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:01 pm

well yea i cant afford to get everything i want right now .

but i will go the body lift . and prob the shackles .

dose anyone know of a site with the steps involved ? or some instructions ?

cheers guys

Post by **Gutless** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 6:02 pm

PM me again.

I'll give you a run down on whats involved.

Otherwise, look at the sierra bible.

Pete

Post by **suzuki boy** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 7:43 pm

Just go for extended shackles and a set of 30" muddys to start with! If you need to get further get f&r lockers.

Mine came with the lockers already in but it took a bit to get used to.

Just get use to it and go for 30's untill you know what you want the end product to be.

Post by **muppet_man67** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 8:48 pm

get the tyres

I wouldnt say it if it wasnt true.

Post by **patzuki** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 9:45 pm

Your best investment would be to pay $60 and join the suzi club. We are running club trips in the next few months to 4 Play Offroad who are suzi specialists and the ARB factory in Kilsyth.
By then you will know what a sway bar is, what it does, why you should take it off and where you should spend your money properly.

Hope this helps,

Bill

Post by **Taff** » Mon Sep 18, 2006 11:31 pm

Whats the legal info on bodylifts in QLD?

Post by **Klappers** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:56 am

look up the queensland transport home page

Post by **vicelore** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:28 am

hey Patzuki

why do u need to be in a club to learn about 4x4s . isnt this the whole point of this forum.

i am goin to join a club but im not even sure where the club is or how to get there . i have spoken to some other members and they told me there wasnt a meet untill next month some time. so untill then i cant learn anything about my new car ??
beucase everytime i ask a question i get the same answer " join a club"

if u guys dont want to help me to learn about this stuff please just dont answer. tho if u do have answers for me ill be very apprecitave .

Cheers guys.

Post by **grimbo** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:29 am

vicelore wrote:hey Patzuki

why do u need to be in a club to learn about 4x4s . isnt this the whole point of this forum.

i am goin to join a club but im not even sure where the club is or how to get there . i have spoken to members and they told me there wasnt a meet untill next month some time. so untill then i cant learn anything about my new car ??
beucase everytime i ask a question i get the same answer " join a club"

if u guys dont want to help me to learn about this stuff please just dont answer. tho if u do have answers for me ill be very apprecitave .

Cheers guys.

That is helping, you will get so much more from speaking to the club members one on one as they can show you in person what things are and what they do. But if you aren't willing to take the advice then so be it.

Although here is one final bit of advice, use the search function and all your answers are there and stop wasting everyones time if you aren't going to listen to good advice when you get it

Post by **vicelore** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:40 am

grimbo wrote:
vicelore wrote:hey Patzuki

why do u need to be in a club to learn about 4x4s . isnt this the whole point of this forum.

i am goin to join a club but im not even sure where the club is or how to get there . i have spoken to members and they told me there wasnt a meet untill next month some time. so untill then i cant learn anything about my new car ??
beucase everytime i ask a question i get the same answer " join a club"

if u guys dont want to help me to learn about this stuff please just dont answer. tho if u do have answers for me ill be very apprecitave .

Cheers guys.
That is helping, you will get so much more from speaking to the club members one on one as they can show you in person what things are and what they do. But if you aren't willing to take the advice then so be it.

Although here is one final bit of advice, use the search function and all your answers are there and stop wasting everyones time if you aren't going to listen to good advice when you get it

Hey buddy

As i said i am going to join the club also i have used the serch function and in the bible under body lift there is nothing just a heading

. i dont want to argue with anyone . just wanna chat about stuff. maybey im not using the search tool as effectly as possible. ill give it another bash.

and im sorry if im wasting anyones time. i dont mean it i know the questions i ask are basic but i bet all of u asked them at some point.
gotta start somewhere. so im sorry.

Post by **Guy** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 11:38 am

vicelore wrote:hey Patzuki

why do u need to be in a club to learn about 4x4s . isn't this the whole point of this forum.

i am going to join a club but I'm not even sure where the club is or how to get there . i have spoken to members and they told me there wasn't a meet until next month some time. so until then i cant learn anything about my new car ??
because every time i ask a question i get the same answer " join a club"

if u guys don't want to help me to learn about this stuff please just don't answer. tho if u do have answers for me ill be very appreciative .

Cheers guys.

Settle down youngen ..

All he was saying is that Question and Answer is all well and good .. but having someone standing there to point out the pitfalls\benefits etc is alot easier, especially with the type of questions you are asking.
You can also have a look at other modded rides and get some idea if what you want is within your skill level to build..

The very best advice I can give is drive it for a while and learn the art of wheeling before dumping a whole bunch of hard earned $$ on mods you may or may not need ..

I reckon the most fun I had with mine was when it was close to stock as every track had some challenges and you had to think about what you were doing instead of just pointing and driving to "obstacles".

Oh and not to mention the difference in reliability.

If I purchased another Zuk my mods would be in this order for these reasons..

Toss the swaybar .. I preferd the handling without it

Motor .. 1.6 Efi As that is one thing you use ALL the time your in the Zuk and the extra power certainly makes dring more plesant,

Suspension probarbly OME 2 inch lift, most likely with rears up front.. again you use it ALL the time your in the Zuk .. ride comfort is important factor in enjoying your little truck, plus if you do need to "bump" things to get up em while playing in the bush you dont beat your self or your ride up as much.

Perhaps some cheapie 235's or 30's with the extra torque from the 1.6 gears would not be needed for a while ...

Then bomb about in it for 6 months or so learn to drive it properly in the bush and get the most out of it ..

Then lockers gears etc ..

Post by **vicelore** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:10 pm

thanks buddy sorry if i sounded rude didnt mean it.

thats exactly what i was after.

with your engine sujestion u mean a transplant ?

as thats way to much of a big job for me and the whole reason i baught this car was it had virtualy no ks on the clock .

but cheers thats a great start .

Post by **lay80n** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:28 pm

Taken straight from the bible, where there is "no" bodylift info

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... highlight=

As for the motor trasplant, the standard 1.3L has no guts, and if you intend to start modifying ya zook with bigger rubber and lift, then drive big angles, you will find it gutless and because of the carby it will stall just when the fun starts.

layto....

Post by **vicelore** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 12:33 pm

oh sorry i didnt see it anywhere all i sene was

"Suspension:
Suspension kits
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=43411
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=48150
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=47235
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=46552
body lift
spring over how to
http://www.zukikrawlers.com/showthread.php?t=174
http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... hp?t=44601
chassis extention

was it in the sierra bible. god i feel stupid

Post by **vicelore** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 2:47 pm

Hey patzuki

after rereading my replys to this thread i did sound a little adgitated and i didnt mean it. i had have a few people suggest i join a club .
which i think is a great idea and i fully plann to .
just thuaght id say sorry if i put out the wrong wording. i appreciate your comment .

Post by **waxhead..** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:16 pm

dude just throw your rear springs in the front with ext. shackles from pete, and then 2" lifted rears for about $150 a pair, and some vs commodore rear shocks in the front, hilux shocks in the back, about $150 for all four.... and then you will have some flex and can save up for some little boggers....

Post by **vicelore** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 3:21 pm

Hey man
i take it u mean mud tyers by boggers ?

is shackles legal in vic i was reading though the laws this morning thaught i seen it wasnt . tho im no expert.

is there any decent shocks that all match ? like a kit or something . does using RUF aproach make the front higher of lower than the rear ?

Cheers

Post by **waxhead..** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:20 pm

RUF will give about a 2" lift in the front. Am pretty sure ext. shackles are illegal in most states, but no one really minds, everyone's got them. Yeah you can buy shocks to match, but I thought money was an issue, and these shocks will do the trick.
I lifted mine with the method described and I think it works well.
Will definately keep you more stable across the ruts.
a couple of mine when i first got it...

Post by **Dee** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:24 pm

vicelore wrote:Hey man
i take it u mean mud tyers by boggers ?

is shackles legal in vic i was reading though the laws this morning thaught i seen it wasnt . tho im no expert.

is there any decent shocks that all match ? like a kit or something . does using RUF aproach make the front higher of lower than the rear ?

Cheers

You can buy a kit from ARB with new springs and shocks, but this means $$$.

What waxhead is suggesting is that standard sierra rear springs installed in the front will lift the front end roughly 2" from standard. From there, you go out and buy a pair of rear arb 2" lift springs, and put them in the rear, and that will lift the rear to match the front.

this, combined with a 2" bodylift will clear 31" tyres.

Post by **Dee** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 4:48 pm

waxhead, how much have you extended your shackles? Do you find your ome rears a bit stiff? my mate has 2 inch lifted king springs all round and it drives like a racecar around corners. No body roll whatsoever, and pops wheels up everywhere when off road.

I thought about ext. shackles and also maybe playing with spring packs, but we've had the springs off once before to remove the "load" springs, and it didnt look like the rest would come apart easily...
I believe extending shackles theoretically should help the springs move more freely/further? Do you have any issues with steering? I would like it to flex something along the lines as what yours does in the pics above.

The only other thing i could think would be hindering travel (its REAL stiff) is swaybar...
A pic of a swaybar on would be good, as I have looked over his diffs briefly on his car and couldn't seem to see anything that resembles a sway bar, however being unfamilar with zuks, i could be wrong.

If and when I buy (not 100% on it yet) his car when he sells up soon, I plan on joining nbs4x4 so i can come on some trips and get a bit more familiar with the sierra. Until then anything we can do to his zook now, will at least benefit him, even if i don't end up buying it...

(dont mean to hijack vicelore, but hopefully any answers to these question will help you as much as they help me!

)

Post by **vicelore** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 5:53 pm

thanks guys thats some great replys .

money isnt really a issue i did say i didnt have 5k for new gears 33s and new suspension. but i got some to spend and i dont mind saving to do things right.

i take it the kits you are speakin of are the arb OME dakar leaf spring kits.

i think i herd around that they are around the $1200 mark fitted ?

but i also herd they where fairly easy to fit .

tho i woudnt mind gettin it done by a pro to make me feel safer .

cheers again guys

Post by **Dee** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:09 pm

vicelore,

a guy i know through work just had his hilux lifted 2 inches, he got the ARB dakar kit, springs, shocks, also with new greasable shackles, and fitted it came to $2200.

I'm not sure if theres much of a price difference between hilux and sierra, or if he got brakelines or something done aswell, but thats what it cost him. (which is alot more than $1200!)

Just thought i'd let you know. If you've got the money, plan on keeping the car for a while or driving on road alot, I would probably go the kit aswell.
However, if i was after a fun toy that i didn't mind giving it too it in the rough stuff, and wasn't all that worried about resale value i'd definetly save my money and go the diy route (which is what i want to do). Your choice.

Maybe some others can shed some light on leaf suspension lift kit costs.

Post by **muppet_man67** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:22 pm

DEEV8 wrote:vicelore,

a guy i know through work just had his hilux lifted 2 inches, he got the ARB dakar kit, springs, shocks, also with new greasable shackles, and fitted it came to $2200.

I'm not sure if theres much of a price difference between hilux and sierra, or if he got brakelines or something done aswell, but thats what it cost him. (which is alot more than $1200!)

Just thought i'd let you know. If you've got the money, plan on keeping the car for a while or driving on road alot, I would probably go the kit aswell.
However, if i was after a fun toy that i didn't mind giving it too it in the rough stuff, and wasn't all that worried about resale value i'd definetly save my money and go the diy route (which is what i want to do). Your choice.

Maybe some others can shed some light on leaf suspension lift kit costs.

hilux springs are about twice the price of sierra and the shocks are more expensive as well. 1200 fitted sounds about right.

Post by **vicelore** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:07 pm

thats kool man i did look around a bit for price options

oh and as i promised just cruzin heres some pics just a little late.

Post by **ronoor** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:17 pm

will the ruf go straight on with the ext shackles . cheers ron. ps sorry for jumping in

Post by **suzuki boy** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 7:29 pm

Were are the pics at?

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