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Feroza Questions?
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 5:42 pm
by Doates
Hey guys. Have my eyes on a 1993 Feroza F300CX at the moment (no air con). and just had a couple of questions. Price is $4980.
The car has just hit the 200,000km mark, so do you believe the price is too high or on the mark? Any problems with one of this high a mileage?, should I keep looking for something a with a little less on the clock?
If I chose to put aircon into it, what sort of cost would I be looking at? Any other problems in general to look out for?
Thanks for the advice guys
Doates
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 6:06 pm
by HeathGQ
How much do you want to spend?
Mine is for sale with 334,000 on it, but well looked after with re-built gearbox and head. '89 DX chasing $3500 with the tyres (30 x 9.5 BFG muddies)
What to look for depends on what ya want and how much you have to spend. $5000 is reasonable, but you can expect to have head problems by about 250,000 k's i.e. valve seat become hard, so have to replace them, and at the same time replace teh vavles (learnt that the hard way).
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 6:21 pm
by murcod
200000km would be about average for a '93 model. Has it got a service history? That's probably more important than the number of km it's travelled. Expect it to use a bit of oil and budget for a timing belt change too if there's no record of it being done recently.
Have a look here for a value guide (from what I've seen the values in Redbook are undervalued compared to prices here in SA)
http://www.redbook.com.au/Vehiclesearch ... 93CZ&veh=y
Have a look at the IFS thread for common faults to look out for.
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 8:18 pm
by Doates
Was it expensive to rebuild the head and gearbox?
Doates
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 11:11 pm
by Croz
you would be looking at about $2000-$2500 for a new air con system... if you also budget the timing belt ($400) then you would be better off getting an $8000 car with less kays and maybe air in it already.
just my opinion...
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 8:26 am
by HeathGQ
about 1200 for each.... Very painful at the time - I think I am still paying the credit card off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with Croz, spend 8 - 10,000 if you want air, and get something with about 150 - 180,000 k's on it. Don't rush into it, they are out there.
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:02 pm
by Kell
Heath28 wrote:about 1200 for each.... Very painful at the time - I think I am still paying the credit card off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with Croz, spend 8 - 10,000 if you want air, and get something with about 150 - 180,000 k's on it. Don't rush into it, they are out there.
Somewhere I am still looking
But I would prefer to take my time rather than fork out thousands later!
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 4:10 pm
by Doates
Thanks for the advice guys. I'll have to keep an eye out. I'm not in any hurry and am also looking at Vitara's.
Doates
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:03 pm
by ShinyDiscoBalls
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:12 pm
by Doates
I do prefer the look of the Feroza though ;-)
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:18 pm
by ShinyDiscoBalls
In case anyone's interested...
http://yahoo.carsales.com.au/pls/yacars ... le_display
Looks like a good clean example...
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:26 pm
by ShinyDiscoBalls
Hey QLDGal... this one might be worth flying to Sydney for.... nice "RIG"
http://yahoo.carsales.com.au/pls/yacars ... le_display
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 5:30 pm
by ShinyDiscoBalls
AND FACTORY LSD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 6:00 pm
by Doates
Did the Feroza come with power windows in 92? Which models? Or was it only in the widetrack model?
Was trying to figure out what model this might be?
DAIHATSU FEROZA 1992 Maroon/silver, 12 months rego, power windows, sunroof, soft/hard top, mags, bull-bar, towbar, very good condition, $6000 or near offer.
Have I asked enough questions as yet?
Thanks guys
Doates
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 7:45 pm
by murcod
My '92 ELIII narrow track (has small flares front and rear but still a narrow track) has power windows, mirrors, and central locking.
They are also silver on the bottom half and the removable roof sections- so an ELIII is most likely what you're looking at in the ad.
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 8:50 pm
by Doates
Thanks murcod, I was thinking ELIII. Would be too much to hope for that it was a widetrack at that price ;-). Sounds cheap even for an ELIII. Will have to give the guy a call tomorrow and find out how many km's its done etc.
Doates
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 9:09 pm
by murcod
The ELIII's are really nice inside. I was looking at a narrow track DX as well and you'd think it was a totally different vehicle inside!
Mine was $8900 from a dealer in January this year: 160000km, air, driving lights, Rola racks, tow bar, excellent condition inside and out. Some people have thought it's a near new vehicle when they've seen it.
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 9:42 pm
by HeathGQ
Honestly, get a wide track - You will regret getting a narrow track in the future, once you start modding and driving a bit harder. I know I have!
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 10:11 pm
by Goatse.AJ
...and don't go the Vitara....I've got one of those as well as the Feroza, but the Zook is a much softer vehicle.....a Feroza will hold its' condition MUCH better than the Zook. More solid construction, better looking, GALVANISED body (=no rust), easier to turn into a "beast", etc., etc.
On the other hand, the zook will get you where you want to go a bit faster, is generally cheaper to mod, and you can get things like difflocks and rockhopper TX case.
I got my lift kit for the Zook for around $400 with rear shocks, but I would still rather drive the Feroza in the rough stuff. The Zook (4door wagon) was bought as a "family" car, the extra room is really appreciated when camping and fishing, but I find the Feroza climbs big obstacles MUCH more easily, even with the same size tyres (30 x 9.5" BFG muddies).
AJ
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 8:14 am
by murcod
Heath28 wrote:Honestly, get a wide track - You will regret getting a narrow track in the future, once you start modding and driving a bit harder. I know I have!
Depends how much you want to spend though too. I know when I was looking a wide track would have been at least another $3000.
The wider rims and tyres I have just bought have really made a huge difference to the handling of mine. I haven't had a chance to take it offroad yet but I imagine it will be a lot better.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 8:20 am
by Kell
Is it just me...I can't get that link to work
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 9:16 am
by murcod
Yep it's just you!
No the link doesn't work...... Try going to
www.carsales.com.au and searching for it.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 9:51 am
by Kell
murcod wrote:Yep it's just you!
No the link doesn't work...... Try going to
www.carsales.com.au and searching for it.
If there was an emoticon for sticking my tounge out I would!
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:18 am
by murcod
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:22 am
by Kell
smart ass
I have been looking on there.....there are a few there that I am going to hopefully check out. I am also going to go and get the trading post today
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 12:39 pm
by Doates
It was indeed a ELIII. Had 160,000km on the clock and the first guy to see it, bought it.
Doh!
Doates
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 1:45 pm
by ShinyDiscoBalls
For those who couldn't see it the one in Sydney read as follows:
Reg: AZA001 Reg Expiry: FEB-2004
Trans: Manual RWC: Not Applicable
Ext. colour: blue/gray Int. colour: gray
Mileage: 170,000 km Price: $9,000
Comments
Fully optioned ex daihatsu demo vehicle, one private owner. ULTIMATE SUSPENSION 40mm lift springs and torsion bars. 50mm body lift, ARB bullbar, factory LSD, tow bar, CB radio, KENWOOD 10 disc CD stacker, alarm, mag wheels, all power options, roof racks (rhino) and roof basket and side steps. Over $5000 worth of extras.
Make: DAIHATSU
Model: FEROZA II F310SX SX
Year: 1994
Engine: Petrol Multi-point injected 1.6 4cyl (1589cc)
Body: 2 Door HARDTOP
Trans: 5 sp Manual
Features:
Adjustable Steering Col. - Tilt Only
Air Conditioning
Alarm
Alloy Wheels
Bull Bar
Cd Player
Central Locking
Electric Mirrors
Heavy Duty Suspension
Power Steering
Power Windows
Remote Boot/Hatch Release
Roof Racks
Sunroof
Tow Bar
I called the guy about 10 mins ago and he ended up trading it in for $5,500 due to lack of interest. Said he would have sold it for $6,000.
He also had a DETROIT LOCKER from Lockrite who were experimenting with them on Ferozas which he dumped as in 3 months he went through 2 diffs and ended up getting the LSD.
I would have bought it for $6,000 for sure.
Here's a pic
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 1:49 pm
by Kell
You would have had a fight on your hands
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 3:15 pm
by Doates
I feel like crying. Where did he trade it in? Where did you see the add?
Doates
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 5:37 pm
by Ferwoaza
QLDGal, another good website to keep an eye on is
www.autotrader.com.au
They combine all the tradingposts plus other publications, dealers as well, all into one...updates every thursday...pretty dang good for searching down cars