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2.7 efi dual battery ideas...

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 4:08 pm
by landy_man
Anyone got pics of their setups in the 2.7 engine bay..
Would really like to keep the battery out of the tray if I can, but there does not appear to be any room in the engine bay..

PICS PLEASE :cool:

And yes I searched.. but none that relate to my vehicle...

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:16 pm
by Rb25sil80
What he said!

I just got an 02 lux and got quoted the usual $700 at TJM so I need to DIY!!

Seems like a piece of piss apart from doing the trey up. I still might just buy the trey and install it. They said the fuel filter nees to be lowered and the charcoal canister needs to be moved to the passenger side.

Went to remove the charcoal cannister yesterday to do a test fit and it started grumbling and making bad noises so I did the bolts back up and left it ! Im hesitant to touch it under the hood, my previous vehicles werent very greatful for my DIY efforts.

Cheers

Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 10:04 pm
by landy_man
well... I had a good hard look around in there tonight..

The charcoal canister definatly needs to be moved..
But the only place I can find to move it to is on the OTHER side of the engine bay.. between the abs and its relay :bad-words: ...

What a PITA... Really dont want to have to run all new hoses and wiring for the solenoid over to the other side of the engine bay...

Anyone tried squeezing the canister between the body and the original battery...

Going to the usual suspects tomorrow (ARB, TJM) and see where/what they do/recommend ... :roll:

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:12 pm
by booflux
Hey mate I did mine a couple of years ago but I used a piranha battery tray which goes behind the standard battery. I also relocated the charcoal canister to the other side actually a very easy job.

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Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:16 pm
by landy_man
so to relocate the canister you just lengthend the hoses and ran wires for the solenoids ???

it also appears as though it is only a small battery you have for the secondary.. or are you using the "new" one to start and the "old" one for accessories..

Posted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:57 pm
by booflux
Yep just lengten the hoses and wires. I was running the smaller battery as the deep cycle, mainly due to the starter battery being new. I have since changed the configuration with the small battery being the starter.

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:28 am
by landy_man
cool...

any more detailed pics... ???
some closeups of where you managed to squeeze the canister into..

Cheers

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:37 am
by booflux
No mate sorry no detailed pics and the motor isnt in there anymore!!

If you look up in the rear left hand corner you can see the canister sitting there behind the compressor. It actually all fitted up quite easily

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:39 am
by landy_man
ah... you see, I have ABS.. and all that crap is in that corner...

might have to have a dig around tonight..

ordered the tray already.. much prefer to have it under bonnet than in the rear

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 1:48 am
by Rb25sil80
How much is the trey gonna set you back? Id like to do this job myself. Im thinking all I really need is the trey and one of those piranha installation kits. Shall price a control unit tomorrow I think!

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:47 am
by booflux
Mine cost $85 from TJM but that was a while ago now

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:14 am
by landy_man
yep.. TJM do one now for around $120 and Pirhana's is around $150..

it is not cheap.. but not expensive either really and would HAVE to be stronger than a generic one..

I am also over stuffing around, fabbing things up.. just want ot be able to bolt in and drive away ;)

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:22 pm
by Rb25sil80
These are the prices i got from TJM enogerra last week:

battery frame - $135 + $160 fitting
60 amp/hour battery - $150
tjm DBS dual battery system - $295 + $80 fitting
total parts = $580
total labour = $240

Cheapest quote ive got so far, id rather be using the piranha controller and monitor though. they said fitting the trey is expensive as the charcoal cannister and fuel filter need to be relocated. I dunno if I can be arses doing it myself, thinking about getting the trey and trying to get it in myself but as I said before, my car started grumbling at me as a warning when i started pulling it apart :D

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:44 pm
by landy_man
well, I got my tray today, and this evening had a crack at it..
what a waste of time.. and money IMO.. you can only fit a 9" battery AT MAX..
there is actually a heaps of stuff to move... and for me just is not worth it..

I want a BIG 70 or higher size battery.. and the only way to do it is to move the starter to the new location and squeeze a bigger battery in the old location..which needs the main battery cables to be extended.. blah blah blah..

I already have a plastic battery box and 70 size battery that will be bolted into a box in the rear tray..

Not as neat and tidy, but a lot less of a mission..

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:14 pm
by Rb25sil80
Yeah they said only an 8 inch battery can be fitted to the TJM battery trey, 60amp/hour supercharge deep cycle from memory. Woulda liked bigger but thems the breaks!

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:17 pm
by landy_man
I definatly wanted bigger and have just mounted mine in the rear, in a big gal tool box with padding/rubber around it..
Nice place I reckon as most of the aux battery requirements are in the rear anyway.. i.e. fridge, worklights, flouro lights etc..