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Front or rear locker first?
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 2:06 am
by Jeeps
Ok, imagine i wanna get a locker in my stock TJ. I reckon i'd leave the LSD in the rear and put the locker in the front. I'd be concerned about the cv's snapping and stuff in the front...even though i have stock tyres...
OR would i be wiser to load the locker in the rear and leave the front open? Hmmm... i need a lift first...
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 7:57 am
by Wooders
err jeeps what cv's
Stock tj/cj/yj(?) diffs will handle lockers just fine, any other model well it varies...
BUT before you start talking lockers make sure you've got your diff ratio sorted or you'll just be wasting yer $$$
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 9:09 am
by billsta
what i rackon is,
lock the front, with ARB or any other on/off type lockers,
than lock the rear with ARB as well
4.11 ratios and 32-33 tyres,
2" sus 1" body lift
SYE, bar works and a 9500TI winch.
and your pretty much set.
sounds like micks jeep
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 12:19 pm
by CJer
Front first i you are going to do one at a time. you will get more benifit from it there
Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 10:00 pm
by POS
Just weld it
Seriously, put a locker in the front first(you should have no problems with blowing UNI-JOINTS)
Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2002 1:09 am
by Jeeps
hehe, let me get this straight - the UNI JOINTS are connected to the CV's i don't have which are connected to my engine which is connected to my stereo, right? Man, i should be a mechanic! I know my stuff.
Sorry dudes, late night last night...glug...glug...glug...
I am such an idiot
Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2002 8:30 am
by Wooders
Jeeps I got a LockRight in the front of My TJ. This initally I fitted while still running the stock ratios and rear trashlok....It was an AWESOME combo - and really transformed it offroad.....
The beauty with the lockright was that I was able to retain it when I regeared - BUT I did have to buy a new carrier.
However if you fitted an ARB or detroit to the front you'd need to replace it if you regear (hence my original question about your ratios)...
Anymore questions??
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2002 3:21 am
by Jeeps
Wooders, as you know - i'm a stocker freak. How much would a lockright cost to fit to my stock beast? I want to be able to remove it and put it in the next TJ i buy and put the original diff back in, etc...possible?
By the way - no plans to re-gear. I thought that it'd be a nice toy to play with on the beach and the odd mud hole.
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2002 12:17 pm
by Wooders
I paid about $200 to get it fitted - but if there is a next time I'll do it myself it's supposed to be fairly easy.....
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2002 3:52 pm
by CJer
I fiited my own and they are a peice of piss to fit
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 1:14 am
by Jeeps
How is it activated? Is as simple as pressing a button? Surely it won't work when in high range 2wd?
Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 7:25 pm
by CJer
No press buttons on this Locker. It is on as soon as you engage the hubs
So yea 4 high it is on.
Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2002 9:32 pm
by Wooders
CJer wrote:No press buttons on this Locker. It is on as soon as you engage the hubs
Hubs? What are hubs on a TJ :p
Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 9:58 am
by ToNkA
Does this guy own a jeep or a Toyota?
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 12:03 am
by TJ Dave
No landbarges in Wooders' yard
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 11:42 am
by Wooders
TJ Dave wrote:No landbarges in Wooders' yard
Darn straight.....Just piles of Jeeps....
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 12:28 pm
by AussieCJ7
CJer wrote:No press buttons on this Locker. It is on as soon as you engage the hubs
So yea 4 high it is on.
real Jeeps have Hubs right CJer
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 9:03 pm
by CJer
YUP
Posted: Fri Feb 28, 2003 10:58 pm
by JP Mark
My vote would be to dump the LSD and put the locker in the rear straight away. The LSD fails pretty early on anyway and you'll get more traction benefit from the rear wheels than the front (more weight transfer to rear when climbing, push rather than pull etc..). Additionally, you have to deselect a front locker in tight sections of track to steer the beast so you might as well have the bebefit of the locker in the rear 100% of the time.
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 10:16 am
by Gordo
Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2003 12:39 pm
by Wooders
Q - Front or rear?
A - BOTH
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 12:47 am
by duncan
Wooders ive fitted locrites to toyotas and nissans both were the diff center comes out as one unit with the jeep when you take the cover plate of what comes out just the centre leaving the pinion behind or what
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2003 8:42 am
by Wooders
The Jeeps have standard Dana diffs.
So when you ripp the cover off, there's nothing "attached" to it.
When you remove the hemisphere (or carrier or LSD or locker), you also remove the ring and spider gears at the same time - but the pinion remains set.
Answer your q??
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2003 10:58 am
by AussieCJ7
Ok given some observations from Nissan trails
If the rear wheels are also the steering wheels ( only steering wheels like you are in reverse) would you still say rear locker before front ???
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 12:06 am
by duncan
Thanks Wooders got some info of Pirate on ARB and LOCRITE installs one quick question with Jeeps not haveing free wheling hubs dose the front locker in a Locrite set up continualy let go I had a Locrite in the rear of a 60 series cruiser and it used to scare the crap out of me when it some time let go with a huge bang other times going round corners it would make the whole car wobble as it racheted other times was quiet as didnt no it was there
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2003 8:17 am
by Wooders
Duncan,
The ONLY times I know know it's there are:
1. On REALLY tight turns - she clicks away - easily masked by stereo on low, or wife nagging
2. In 4wd when it pulls like a champ.
It's been in there for about 4 years now and shows no adverse signs over time.
Hence I'm always happy to recommend for the front, but I'd be hesitate before ever recommending for the rear....
