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sealed beam or h4 housings

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:17 pm
by bru21
looking to finish off old mans lotus seven rep. we need a pair of lights for the front. is there such thing as a housing for a sealed beam or a set of spotties around 140mm that can take a h4 globe. need low/high beam.

look like http://www.birkin.com.au/Birkin_S3_Roadster.php

hella etc have been too dear not paying $250 a light etc.

cheers bru

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:40 pm
by HotFourOk
I'm not sure how dear they are but try Narva...

146mm Headlight housing, which accepts the inserts with H4 Hi/Low globes or just a sealed beam to make it easier still

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http://www.narva.com.au/ForwardLighting_24.html

Posted: Tue Oct 10, 2006 11:48 pm
by nicbeer
Along the same lines, been looking a 7" round ones for the zook,

any greater benefits over a sealed than a h4 replaceable one. I can get aftermaket 75/55w sealed for $16 each or replaceable ones are about 70 each from narva.

Nic

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 12:04 am
by HotFourOk
Main benefit of H4 is the availability of replacement globes and the range of different wattage and colour types.

Every servo and shop has H4 globes, but not many have sealed beams anymore if you get stuck somewhere.

I upgraded my sealed beams to H4 inserts and the light output increased tremendously.. The sealed beams I tried looked very yellow and old.. lol I bought some of them crystal inserts and Tungsram +60 globes. Very happy :D

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:11 am
by ausyota
nicbeer wrote:Along the same lines, been looking a 7" round ones for the zook,

any greater benefits over a sealed than a h4 replaceable one. I can get aftermaket 75/55w sealed for $16 each or replaceable ones are about 70 each from narva.

Nic
By fitting H4 replacement lights you can fit better quality globes and usually get better quality reflectors and lenses than sealed beams.
You also get to choose your wattage from 60/55 to 130/100watt or even higher. Just be aware that the higher wattages will need relays and heavier wiring and not really legal either.
I use 100/55 so low beam isnt too bright but high beam has some punch.
You can also fit HIDs into H4 housings if you are real keen.
Paul.

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:12 pm
by Beastmavster
Sealed way better for lots of water crossings. Even a little bit of mucky water leaking into the H4 housings is near impossible to remove.


Best bet - some 70W sealeds and some good spotties.

Posted: Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:28 pm
by HotFourOk
Beastmavster wrote:Sealed way better for lots of water crossings. Even a little bit of mucky water leaking into the H4 housings is near impossible to remove.


Best bet - some 70W sealeds and some good spotties.
But they are for a Lotus replica... He only wants it to look stock

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:46 pm
by kirragc
Sweet

Tube frame or that sandwiched aircraft alloy stuff?

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:54 pm
by Mad Cruiser
I'd go with the h4 housing that way if you ever blow a bulb you can replace them...... I blew out my sealed beam and it wasn't that bright so i converted them to h4's

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:56 pm
by droopypete
I think the question is where can I get housings that look like this,
http://www.birkin.com.au/Birkin_S3_Roadster.php
whether they are sealed, H4 or made from unobtainium.

Sorry I can't help with the answer, only the question.
Peter.

Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:53 pm
by jessie928
i have a set of spotties with h4 bulbs, dont know what brand they are but they are 7"

Jes

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 1:38 am
by HotFourOk
droopypete wrote:I think the question is where can I get housings that look like this,
http://www.birkin.com.au/Birkin_S3_Roadster.php
whether they are sealed, H4 or made from unobtainium.

Sorry I can't help with the answer, only the question.
Peter.
We knew that from bru's first post.. I missed your point here

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:28 am
by bru21
thanks fellas.

the main thing is that they have adr on them for engineering. it wont be driven much if at all at night, it won't even have a windscreen so how bright they are doesn't really matter etc

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:25 pm
by Eddy
I got a set of lights look nearly like that ... on my old tractor.

Check around a few Farm machinery places :?

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:10 pm
by droopypete
HotFourOk wrote:We knew that from bru's first post.. I missed your point here
Well maybe if you put down the crack pipe, got off the wacky weed and sobered up a bit then re-read my post you get the point.
Peter.
PS, sorry if I seem a bit abrasive but I have my period.
PPS, this post would be filled with laughing emoticons but the bastards don't work at the moment.

Re: sealed beam or h4 housings

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 6:37 pm
by bushy555
bru21 wrote:looking to finish off old mans lotus seven rep. we need a pair of lights for the front. is there such thing as a housing for a sealed beam or a set of spotties around 140mm that can take a h4 globe. need low/high beam.

look like http://www.birkin.com.au/Birkin_S3_Roadster.php


Cibie Oscar duals - H4 bulb, which does hi beam and lo beam.
Only halogen bulbs will fit, ie H4 HID wont fit (without cutting)
They be on all early Bushies and on all Dakars in the UK and Europe. Actually they're used on a lot of them crazy kit cars in the UK. Dax for example. No idea of dollars though.

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Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 11:11 pm
by ricky1970
Try ag tractor parts supplier. Wholesale company caller Bare-co sell a light for tractors, looks like a spotty sorta, that takes H4 globes. They also do one that takes the old type headlight globe (european i think).

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:29 am
by HotFourOk
droopypete wrote:
HotFourOk wrote:We knew that from bru's first post.. I missed your point here
Well maybe if you put down the crack pipe, got off the wacky weed and sobered up a bit then re-read my post you get the point.
Peter.
PS, sorry if I seem a bit abrasive but I have my period.
PPS, this post would be filled with laughing emoticons but the bastards don't work at the moment.
I have re-read and you still have added nothing to the topic.

You provided the same link as Bru did, and asked the same question... I still do not know why your post was needed.

Thanks for re-asking the question...lol
Every topic should have one of these :rollseyes:

PS - My post would be filled with lots of :rollseyes: if the things were working LOL

PPS - And just for your info, I've never smoked weed and don't drink

Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 9:49 am
by droopypete
This is how I see it,
1.bru needs a headlight in a self contained housing like in the link
2.an option is posted up (not what he was looking for but still relivent)
3. for the next 4 posts the topic gets hijacked into a discusion of the benifits of sealed beam over H4, white light, yellow light and river crossings.
4.you remind people it is for a lotus replica in an attemt to bring it back on topic.
5.topic gets hijacked back to sealed beam V H4
6.I post yet another friendly reminder of the origional question (just like yours) to try and help Bru get some lights for his dads ride
7.bushy provides the information bru was seeking

Good luck with the lights Bru, your dads car looks hot, after finding the headlights for it I hope he gives you a drive.
Peter.