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suspension lift q's on a Cherokee
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 3:22 pm
by 86MUD
Hi all
I normally hang around the rover forum, but a mate of mine has just bought a 97 Grand Cherokee. He is just getting into 4wdriving and wants to lift the car.
I am just suggesting a suspension lift at this stage. What shocks/springs work best on a Cherokee? The car will not be carry much more then a bit of camping gear and will only be driven on the beach and dirt tracks - nothing hardcore.
Cheers
Andrew
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:00 pm
by Gonzo
How much lift do you want and what tyre size do you want to run?
I have a 3.5inch lift with a few trick bits to clear 31's on my ZJ
http://craighall.info/gallery/v/4wding/lift
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 5:27 pm
by franco
OME or Rancho are good shocks.
Rubicon Express make premium lift kits, but pricy.
Where are you based? some directions to workshop/supplier may help your mates decision.
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:45 pm
by Gonzo
franco wrote:Rancho are good shocks.
No they're not...
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:33 pm
by franco
Gonzo wrote:franco wrote:Rancho are good shocks.
No they're not...
care to elaborate? are they not suited to GCs? many jeepers (TJs and XJs) that use them preseumably for a good reason.
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:29 pm
by Gonzo
They have a bad reputation among Jeep circles.
Jump over to the Ausjeepoffroad.com forum, bucketload more info there : )
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:49 pm
by franco
Gonzo wrote:They have a bad reputation among Jeep circles.
Jump over to the Ausjeepoffroad.com forum, bucketload more info there : )
dude, ive been on ausjeep for a few years (under another alias) and aware of this recent thread
http://www.ausjeepoffroad.com/forum/sho ... hp?t=55509
i realise opinions vary, but there are many happy users and I know quiete a number of them personally in TJs and XJs and wheel with em regularly (being an MJOC member).
I thought there may have been a reason they are not as good for GCs after your comment however, the only negative things
ive heard from 4x4 mech specialists about them is that they dont suit heavier rigs like patrols and cruisers and people (on ausjeep) debating the adjustable settings for offroad vs black top. Some of those that may have shagged them out prematurely, may have not had their suspension set up correctly, ie. shocks too short for springs and lift height.
TW at USA4x4 sells and recomends them and he is a Jeep specialist.
On another note, I dont use them. I have Black Diamond (Warn) shocks and lift kit, it rides fairly stiff but handles well off-road. ON my next set for my XJ, i will consider Rancho, OME (US) or Rubicon first.
Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 11:47 pm
by Wooders
Billys or something similar (eg Rubicon Monotubes) is the way to go IMHO.....
I wouldn't say ranchos are bad....and I wouldn't say OME are bad - I've run both in the past - but I currently run edelbrock & IMHO they are a class above again and billys are the same.....Just they are a bit more $$
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:08 am
by 86MUD
Thanks for all the input.
I am only looking at doing a 2 inch suspension lift. I don't want to be mucking around with brake hoses (an anything else?) at this stage
Is there a recommended place in Brisbane to buy springs and shocks to suit?
I have always used Bilsteins in my Rover. Some say Procomp are good.
Cheers
Andrew
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:12 pm
by Gonzo
Just personal opinion, everyone that i know that has used Rancho shocks has been unhappy.
Personally, I use OME shocks...
86MUD, I would suggest Wooders is the best person to buy anything Jeep related. His web address is
http://www.wooders.com.au/
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:56 pm
by PK
I'm very happy with my Rancho 9000's, better than the Nitrochargers I had before.
Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:13 pm
by OzJeeper
86mud. I have a 96 Grand and happily run MTR 31"s on a 36mm budget lift. At this height you don't have to worry about driveline angles or panard rod modifications.
Be aware the MTR's measure out to a "true" 30".
Gets me where I want to go on that budget. 30mm to 40mm lift - wait until you kill your standard shockies first. At this lift the shocks fitted will be OK. (less cash to spend)
FYI
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 1:44 pm
by AussieCJ7
Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:09 pm
by Jeeps
I've got ranchos in my Jeep and no issues
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:21 pm
by sasjeep
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:43 pm
by franco
hey SAS Jeep - what diffs u run? ta, noice rig too.
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:45 pm
by suzuki boy
franco wrote:hey SAS Jeep - what diffs u run? ta, noice rig too.
Franco do you need some info after seeing Mi37*s Kj at the 4x4 show!
Man it looks awsome!
jeep
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 8:52 pm
by sasjeep
Hey franco. dana 30 and 35 locked 456 gears. dana 44 and ford 9" on the way should be in by 2007 comp's.
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 9:29 am
by franco
poor d35, how many times have you busted it, or do you take it real easssyyy?
...get the 44 and 9 in...it will be cheaper in the long run ... (do you mind telling me the ball park costs for the to diff/axles)!...farkin awesome rig man
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:21 am
by Gonzo
6.5 inches of lift on short arms must be interesting
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:37 pm
by Steve F
Gonzo wrote:6.5 inches of lift on short arms must be interesting
Looks like it has drop brackets on the LCA mounts so shouldn't be any worse than abut 4" of lift.
Cheers
Steve
jeep
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:07 pm
by sasjeep
ya steve that spot on 4" and 2" odd in spacers
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 12:25 am
by jimmyb
It has low drop brackets which are supplied by RE on all kitsa above 4"
They make a hugh differance, but long arms make even more differance.
Brissie lift
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:53 pm
by Jeepster
86 Mud - mate, tell your mate to try Footo's (Westside 4x4) at sumner park or hammonds over Capalaba way.
