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Layover rear shocks - are they legal in Qld?

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:12 pm
by Bowhunter
Would anyone be able to help me with this?

thanks...

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:34 pm
by Bowhunter
Any help?

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:00 pm
by chops
an explanation of what they are might help..

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:09 pm
by markil
Ring the transport department, they will be able to tell you.

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:59 am
by benhl
Layover shocks are when they are mounted on the centre line of the chassis up top and towards the wheels down the bottom like / \ - i think thats what you're talking about... Helps with travel length of shock, compression rates and uninhibited movement over standard on a lux.

Legality, who knows, how much of your truck is legal anyway? They're only shocks. As long as they're mounted strongly and allow proper travel should be OK. May need to be engineered but i'm sure there is a lot of un-engineered stuff out there that is a higher prioiryt than layover shocks.

Just my 2c

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:28 am
by Bowhunter
Thanks Ben.

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:35 am
by Damo
markil wrote:Ring the transport department, they will be able to tell you.
They would not be able to tell you if their own arse was on fire.

Have a look at some shock fittings from factory. From memory the 40 series rears are laid over a bit. If you go that much, I can't see you having any problems. Putting them at 45 degrees for example, would get you some attention though.

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:09 am
by De-lux
Gen I hilux shocks come "lay over" (WTF) from factory.

Gen II and III (and i'd assume IV) come with one facing forward and one facing reverse in a feeble attempt to counter-act axle tramp / torsion twist. (I think)

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:29 am
by jugger
De-lux wrote:Gen I hilux shocks come "lay over" (WTF) from factory.

Gen II and III (and i'd assume IV) come with one facing forward and one facing reverse in a feeble attempt to counter-act axle tramp / torsion twist. (I think)
key word is feeble.

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:04 pm
by Reddo
Many car have/had them - eg/. Holden 1 tonner which are at a serious angle.

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 8:57 pm
by toughnut
GQ / GU patrols have this standard.

Steve

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:20 pm
by RockyF75
markil wrote:Ring the transport department, they will be able to tell you.
:rofl:

They will prolly ask what are they too :D

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:54 am
by LuxyBoy
Unless you can get them engineered they are illegal.
You will probably need to have it put through a high speed turn and high speed brake test before they would be accepted.
They are grerat off road but do allow more body role on road; yes i have driven both.

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:00 pm
by Bowhunter
Here's a pic...what do ya's reckon?

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Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:08 pm
by RockyF75
Bowhunter wrote:Here's a pic...what do ya's reckon?

Image
:rofl:

:shock:

That'd be about 45 degree's eh? :shock: :rofl:

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 7:15 pm
by Bowhunter
LOL...

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:14 pm
by Bowhunter
So if I had the top mounting points relocated to a more vertical position it'd be ok?

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:25 pm
by bazooked
imho there is not alot achieved doing this other than shok length, and there is alot sacrificed, on road handling and offroad handling aswell, leave them as they r and work out ur suspension set up better.

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 8:27 pm
by Bowhunter
But if they are left there, don't the remain illegal in Qld?

Posted: Fri Oct 20, 2006 9:54 pm
by LuxyBoy
Yes.

Pull them back i bit or all the way; any shock/suspension place will tell you that shocks work best upright.

CAUTION: to do this you may need shorter shocks as they will be left with no up travel.

Posted: Sat Oct 21, 2006 7:39 am
by Bowhunter
LuxyBoy wrote: CAUTION: to do this you may need shorter shocks as they will be left with no up travel.
cheers mate,

I figured this would be the case...