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How to tune gas?
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:57 pm
by mudmacaca
I have a 2f dual fuel and the gas runs through a butterfly after the air box.
Before the butterfly there is a lockable scrwe that regulates the amount of gas going to the butterfly.
How do i get the right amount of gas going through? If i turn the screw to far i can get idle but when I put the boot down she stalls.
Do i just increase it till she works or is there a better science to it?
I want to get it right to much to little she will cook
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 6:21 pm
by RaginRover
what sort of converter do you have ?
Normally the inline valve sets the amount of gas delivered under acceleration and there is a different adjustment on the converter for the idle.
I normally set the power valve first then set the idle so it doesn't stall. Of course after that you need to go for a drive and fine tune.
Tom
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 8:39 pm
by bluemq
get a vaccum gauge, stick it on the intake in the engine bay so you can read it
use the hand throttle (or a mate) to get RPM up to like 3500rpm (dont think the 2f revs any higher does it) ??
when its warm watch the guage and adjust the screw on the mixer til its max vacuum
theres a screw that adjusts the idle flow
thats how i have always done it and it works well
Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 9:35 pm
by mudmacaca
Cheers.
the converter type I dont know but has water running to it I guess to turn the gas from a liquid to a gas there is a solenoid that has a little bit of metal with a + and a - on it.
The vacum gauge goes anywhere it will fit?
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:31 am
by JWB
[quote="mudmacaca"]Cheers.
the converter type I dont know but has water running to it I guess to turn the gas from a liquid to a gas there is a solenoid that has a little bit of metal with a + and a - on it.
The water is for heating! as you need heat in there to control the temperature drop that occurs when liquid turns to gas
The solenoid would allow gas throw only when motor is running ie spark pulsing!
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:45 pm
by shakes
The water is for heating! as you need heat in there to control the temperature drop that occurs when liquid turns to gas
isnt the water there to help the liquid turn to gas? as the heat energy for it to change state has to come from somewhere?
ie. to stop it taking the heat from the surrounding air and therefore freezing the mixer and the liquid....this is coming from my understanding of air con not cars so please shoot me down if i'm wrong!
Simon
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:36 pm
by mudmacaca
shakes wrote:The water is for heating! as you need heat in there to control the temperature drop that occurs when liquid turns to gas
isnt the water there to help the liquid turn to gas? as the heat energy for it to change state has to come from somewhere?
ie. to stop it taking the heat from the surrounding air and therefore freezing the mixer and the liquid....this is coming from my understanding of air con not cars so please shoot me down if i'm wrong!
Simon
Yes but do you know how to tune a gas engine.
And you just repeated what JWB stated
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:53 pm
by shakes
sorry i read his description wrong, and not really... I get it running smooth with no flatspots by ear and then pay someone to do it as i dont have the gear or know how yet

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:47 am
by Gribble
The water is there to stop the primary valve in the converter freezing when you put the foot down. The primary valve would be something similar to the thermal expansion valve in an aircon system.
What converter/mixer setup are you running? That will make things alot easeir.
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 11:17 am
by mudmacaca
The mixer is by AIRROD and joins into the air intake
The converter is is by ONVL and it is a R90/E