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rotated diff with horizontal driveshaft would it work??
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:27 am
by evanstaniland
i saw these on the pictured truck and was wondering if anyone has seen this kind of setup before, and would it be workable on a 4wd.
wouldnt rotating the diff around give higher ground clearance and would having the horizontal drive shaft be a positive or would it bind up with flex??
just curious to see if it could be utilised
Evan..
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:42 am
by lay80n
Similar to the Rockwell setup.
Layto....
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:18 am
by Daisy
yes... few buggies in the US running that kind of setup.
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:25 am
by RUFF
Daisy wrote:yes... few buggies in the US running that kind of setup.
Only on Rockwell diffs. It wont work without a shit load of $$$ on a normal diff. You basicaly need to build another diff on top of the original one to do it. You would also have pinion oiling issues.
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:36 am
by pongo
Id recon a mog dif would be close to the same angles, etc. due to the rockwells not having portals.
some "Moster trucks" run these diffs
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:15 am
by Guy
I want one of those trucks with a stupid huge V8 in it ... I recal seeing a similar looking truck years ago in fouwheerl or some other yank rag roasting all 4 or 6 44's with his 700Hp V8 ... looked like an expensive .. but fun exercise ) ..
What make is the truck in the pic.. as those diffs sure aren't rockwells (they are all stamped steel whereas those diffs have cast housings with pressed in tubes)
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:20 am
by Loanrangie
Looks like a gmc or studebaker.
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 11:29 am
by lay80n
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 1:20 pm
by Guy
looks like it has central tyre inflation as well ..
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:29 pm
by dr who?
its a URAL built in russia for the russian army, big v8 that can run on petrol or diesel and has a small petrol engine in the engine bay just to keep the oil from freezing in the minus 40 winters they get!!!!
oh and they are cheap!! you can buy them on the uk ebay for 4500 pounds!!!
thats all i know off the top of my head, check out the ad in ebay the fella who sells them has some other fun stuff, like 8x8 trucks allsorts of good stuff!!

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:02 pm
by ISUZUROVER
dr who? wrote:
oh and they are cheap!! you can buy them on the uk ebay for 4500 pounds!!!
That's not cheap - that's about AU$12000. You can get a Unimog 404 on ebay for about e300 - about AU$500.
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:40 pm
by Rhett
I think if you wanted somthing of that design you would be better off going a currie rock jock.
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:56 pm
by evanstaniland
lay80n wrote:
Rockwell pics if you are wondering what we are talking about Evan.
Cheers mate
dr who? wrote:its a URAL built in russia for the russian army, big v8 that can run on petrol or diesel and has a small petrol engine in the engine bay just to keep the oil from freezing in the minus 40 winters they get!!!!
oh and they are cheap!! you can buy them on the uk ebay for 4500 pounds!!!
thats all i know off the top of my head, check out the ad in ebay the fella who sells them has some other fun stuff, like 8x8 trucks allsorts of good stuff!!

this truck was at a checkpoint station between east and west germany not in russia.
in saying that you are most likely correct as i have no real clue but it was damn big and tuff!! was new aswell!!
EDIT- yep you were right i zoomed into the sign and its a Ural 375!!
evan..
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:56 pm
by ISUZUROVER
evanstaniland wrote:
this truck was at a checkpoint station between east and west germany not in russia.
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Where do you think the east germans got all their trucks, cars, guns, and everything else from...

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:21 pm
by dumbdunce
ISUZUROVER wrote:evanstaniland wrote:
this truck was at a checkpoint station between east and west germany not in russia.
.
Where do you think the east germans got all their trucks, cars, guns, and everything else from...

Bunnings?

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:36 pm
by ISUZUROVER
dumbdunce wrote:ISUZUROVER wrote:evanstaniland wrote:
this truck was at a checkpoint station between east and west germany not in russia.
.
Where do you think the east germans got all their trucks, cars, guns, and everything else from...

Bunnings?

No no no, BAUMARKT - it is the German equivalent of bunnings.
http://www.baumarkt.de/
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:40 pm
by dumbdunce
ISUZUROVER wrote:dumbdunce wrote:ISUZUROVER wrote:evanstaniland wrote:
this truck was at a checkpoint station between east and west germany not in russia.
.
Where do you think the east germans got all their trucks, cars, guns, and everything else from...

Bunnings?

No no no, BAUMARKT - it is the German equivalent of bunnings.
http://www.baumarkt.de/
heh paid!

Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:10 pm
by Reddo
The similarity to US gear is no coincidence, the US and the Brits gave the Ruski's heaps of gear during WW2 including trucks, tanks, planes and so on to fight the Germans and relieve the Allies on the Western Front.
The Ruski's, like the Japs after the War became experts at copying. Trouble is in many cases they did not bother to improve the original designs much, and they were frozen out of World technolgy (cold war) which did not help. So they just kept making the same old same old. The Russian ICBM launchers are something to see in the flesh.
In some cases the Ruski's did improve the original design, eg., their WW2 tanks were improved versions of earlier British and German tanks and were very capable. Rocket technolgy was also more advanced in many cases than the US, but suffered from a lack of investment.
Even USSR jet engine technolgy was imported, from Britain - a costly mistake that Roles Royce made without full British Government knowledge, and which really pissed off the US cause they ended up fighting them in the Migs during the Korean war.
Love that Ruski gear though - simple and over engineered to buggery.
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:19 pm
by Dozoor
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 10:58 pm
by dr who?
ISUZUROVER wrote:dr who? wrote:
oh and they are cheap!! you can buy them on the uk ebay for 4500 pounds!!!
That's not cheap - that's about AU$12000. You can get a Unimog 404 on ebay for about e300 - about AU$500.
wish they were that cheap overhere!!
you'd pay £4500 for a knackered 90 or disco overhere, so i reckon for all that truck for 4.5k its pretty cheap
Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:23 pm
by ISUZUROVER
dr who? wrote:ISUZUROVER wrote:dr who? wrote:
oh and they are cheap!! you can buy them on the uk ebay for 4500 pounds!!!
That's not cheap - that's about AU$12000. You can get a Unimog 404 on ebay for about e300 - about AU$500.
wish they were that cheap overhere!!
you'd pay £4500 for a knackered 90 or disco overhere, so i reckon for all that truck for 4.5k its pretty cheap
Yes, you guys pay silly money for LRs. And I don't understand why more prople don't brave the channel to snap up the unimog bargains in the EU.
Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:37 pm
by dr who?
ISUZUROVER wrote:dr who? wrote:ISUZUROVER wrote:dr who? wrote:
oh and they are cheap!! you can buy them on the uk ebay for 4500 pounds!!!
That's not cheap - that's about AU$12000. You can get a Unimog 404 on ebay for about e300 - about AU$500.
wish they were that cheap overhere!!
you'd pay £4500 for a knackered 90 or disco overhere, so i reckon for all that truck for 4.5k its pretty cheap
Yes, you guys pay silly money for LRs. And I don't understand why more prople don't brave the channel to snap up the unimog bargains in the EU.
thats why i drive a toyota!!!!
