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Just wondering what trail most 4WDer's consider to be the most difficult in Australia? Either open or recently closed trails.

This would be impossible to discuss!

There are to many tracks and there are also to many tracks that are hidden away that only a few people know about!

i've good an easier question to answer...

Coke or Pepsi?



Try narrowing down the question... you may get a better response

OK- how about the most difficult rockcrawling trail on the east coast. I.e. the trail that fewest people that have attempted to drive have completed without winching or outside help.

Well, having not travelled the full extent of the east coast I can not say for certain, however i would say Winch Break is up there.

That's the sort of response I was after.
Cheers

the hardest one i can think of on public land would be the waterfall track [south east QLD]....not that extreme but i needed lockers to drive it.
cant really think of anything harder that i have tried
pretty sad when most tracks around here can be driven unlocked

Hume Highway....

Winch break

Killer Hill in VIC is the scariest I have seen, haven't seen all that many though.

Pitt st mall?
Winchbreak is good - but gezz not after there's been a hea of people there building the M1

Stairway to Heaven, even though its closed...

Sydney's roads

some of that slippery shit they have down in victoria would have to be the hardest to drive from point A to point B.
anyone can scratch around and spend ages on big boulders and ledges trying different lines and methods and eventually finding the right line to get through, some of the gunge they have down there you need to winch just to stay pointing forwards, rather than sideways down some greasy cliff face.

The Mayford spur in the Dargo area in the Victorian high country looks pretty hardcore. I don't think it has been driven in a while though.

Kane wrote:The Mayford spur in the Dargo area in the Victorian high country looks pretty hardcore. I don't think it has been driven in a while though.

Okay, now i'm going to need specifics about where this track is please

I was going to ask the same thing. I just had a look on the map and it looks to rise up from the Dargo River. It looks reasonably steep judging by the contour lines. IMO I'd hate to drive all the way to Dargo on the 'pedes!

bogged wrote:Stairway to Heaven, even though its closed...

Maybe even the stairway to the state library... or so i though until that Rav 4 got up it.

mtb4x4mad wrote:Just wondering what trail most 4WDer's consider to be the most difficult in Australia? Either open or recently closed trails.

Funny how you notice stuff, i grew up calling bush roads "tracks" & now people use "trails".

Have people always called them trails or have we all been reading too many yanky sites ?

big red wrote:the hardest one i can think of on public land would be the waterfall track [south east QLD]....not that extreme but i needed lockers to drive it.
cant really think of anything harder that i have tried
pretty sad when most tracks around here can be driven unlocked

When we first cut this track it was extreme and i would have said it was prob the hardest track in SE/QLD on public land. Then the rock stackers came in

Before that it was The Cliff Track at Ormeau. This is the second track on the right after the 2 large rocks either side of the main track heading toward the 5ways or tower of terror. If you can drive this without a winch cable you have balls (Guts knows this one and yes he drove it) For most of the track its not that hard till you get right to the base of the 6foot tall step-up. You have allready traveled up a incline of about 45* for maybe 30mtrs before you get to this.

I know this is on Public land but i have to say the hardest trail i know of currently is on Private land and is known as the soup bowl. Actually the soup bowl is only one obstical in a section known as training grounds.

5 rigs have attempted the soup bowl and only 2 have driven it un-assisted. All have rolled on to their sides attempting it. It would be 6 tried but one hilux didnt even make the entrance to the soup bowl without doing a CV and a tyre.

ruff, any more pics?

Greg, I don't know a whole lot about this area, but what I can tell you is that you get in through King Spur which leads down to the "Mayford flats" at the bottom. I know that Mayford spur starts on the Mayford flats some where. I'll ask my mates on a more percise location and I'll PM you.

Greg do you know where dargo is? it is a bout 4 hour drive from melbourne, that's a long way in your Zuk. The club used to do lots of trips up that way to talbotville etc but everyone is to soft to travel in their Zuks anymore

Kane wrote:The Mayford spur in the Dargo area in the Victorian high country looks pretty hardcore. I don't think it has been driven in a while though.

will have to check this one out in a few weeks when i'm down in mexico

Kane wrote:Greg, I don't know a whole lot about this area, but what I can tell you is that you get in through King Spur which leads down to the "Mayford flats" at the bottom. I know that Mayford spur starts on the Mayford flats some where. I'll ask my mates on a more percise location and I'll PM you.

Thanks for the info Kane, though now that Grimbo has pointed out how far away from melbourne Dargo is, I think we'd need some confirmation that this is going to be pretty close to the best track in the world before I trek up there in my li'l car - though i must admit, it is a sheer pleasure to drive now-a-days

robbie wrote:ruff, any more pics?

one better, there is a video available...

I think Mayford spur is closed .

It was one hell of a climb.

long steeppppppp,.

Michael.

antt wrote:

Kane wrote:The Mayford spur in the Dargo area in the Victorian high country looks pretty hardcore. I don't think it has been driven in a while though.

will have to check this one out in a few weeks when i'm down in mexico

another track down that way is grimes track (also know as knobs track) it is abit closer to licola, i havnt been on this track with out someone in the group breaking something (diffs, winchs, hubs, etc.) last time we were on a trip up there and where going to go through there this jeep grand cherokee was stopped right in the middle of the track couoldnt get around it too much of an egde drop off plus the first 4b was diffing out with 39 baja claws, aparently the jeep had blown a diff and it was the first vehicle in the group, not a bad track thou worth a look

mav wrote:

antt wrote:

Kane wrote:The Mayford spur in the Dargo area in the Victorian high country looks pretty hardcore. I don't think it has been driven in a while though.

will have to check this one out in a few weeks when i'm down in mexico

another track down that way is grimes track (also know as knobs track) it is abit closer to licola, i havnt been on this track with out someone in the group breaking something (diffs, winchs, hubs, etc.) last time we were on a trip up there and where going to go through there this jeep grand cherokee was stopped right in the middle of the track couoldnt get around it too much of an egde drop off plus the first 4b was diffing out with 39 baja claws, aparently the jeep had blown a diff and it was the first vehicle in the group, not a bad track thou worth a look

cool, cool.........anymore spots I/we should check out around that sorta area. i think we'll be leaving from mansfield, up past buller, into caledonia (sp?), then wonangatta, dargo, licola etc.