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New OME sus next plans.

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 6:59 pm
by vicelore
hey guys just thaught id tell yas i got my new OME sus setup today. cost me 1300 from ARB. they told me it raised it about 2 and a bit inches.

feels pretty nice havent really thrashed it yet.

was just wondering what u guys think i should head for next. i was thinking go the 2 inch BL from guttless ( if he ever comes back on ) . then ill prob see how i go fitting some new 31s .

was thinking about goin shackles aswell but the ARB guys told me not to . is this a bad idea ? do they screw your turning performance ?

Cheers guys heres a pic of her just got home.


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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:18 pm
by mistaboz
Some quick answer as im in a hurry (have to go somewhere)
Shackles wont really screw your turning circle.
Personally I wouldnt go a 2 inch body lift. Your centre of gravity would be starting ot get up a bit high if you did.
Could possibly get some 2 inch shackles (giving you an extra 1 inch lift).
Cons of shackle extension are that you may need longer shocks (depending of the down travel of your new shocks). You may also need to extend your brake lines.
You could do a virtual lift and try and fit the 31's with just 2 inch suspension left and virtual lift. Coul still rub in some places but wont go into detail.
These are just some of the things to consider.
Could type some more but have to go. Ill let others put in some input.

ps. You could just leave it as is and put some 30's on it and wheel it for a while. That way your gearing wont suffer too much. You may just have to flatten a couple of seems.
Good luck.

Paul..

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:27 pm
by muppet_man67
the arb guys told you that because they are illegal and will change your castor. I agree put some 30's on it and wheel it for a while, maybe save your money and get a locker or two. anything over 30 inch in my opinion and you will have to correct the gearing somehow as well. twin locked on 30" will get you through most tracks in victoria exept for extreme stuff.

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 7:36 pm
by suzuki boy
I have 2 inches in the leafs, extended shackles(3 inch all up) with no sway bar and it turnes corners flexs and stuff well!

I have asked the question of what i need to do to fit 31's and it's not as hard as i thought it would be! From what i've been told stay clear from body lifts( After already having 3 inches it will be too tall) and a vertual lift is the way to go!

Heres the link to my little topic!

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic.php?t=91118

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:40 pm
by vicelore
yea i have been reading it thanks man. im not to keen on the whole cuttin the body.

i have no metal experiance and wouldnt wanna lose value on it.

as for the caster that was exactly what he said i would lose . not really sure what that is tho .

for gearing . its not a problem i will prob be gettin it anyway . just down the path a bit. when i can spare a grand .

Cheers guys.

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 8:58 pm
by suzuki boy
vicelore wrote:yea i have been reading it thanks man. im not to keen on the whole cuttin the body.

i have no metal experiance and wouldnt wanna lose value on it.

as for the caster that was exactly what he said i would lose . not really sure what that is tho .

for gearing . its not a problem i will prob be gettin it anyway . just down the path a bit. when i can spare a grand .

Cheers guys.
I don't have any metal work under my belt exept for at school when we made a pen holder!

If your worried about losing money on your zuk you never gett back what you put into it and I'm sure it for what i paid for mine and what i've spent i wouldn't get it back so it's not worth selling so make it as capapble as it can be!

But yours is newer then mine so you got an excuse not to chop i guesse!

The castor is the angle which your drive shafts are ging into your diff i think? Not exactly sure though!

Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:47 pm
by muppet_man67
best way to describe castor is to imagine the forks on a bike, they are always leaned slightly back. your suspension does this the same on your car. the effect of having less angle (castor) will mean that your car will be less likely to track straight and the steering will not return to center as easily after you turn. I didn't really notice a great deal of difference after fitting shackles to my car. There are other places you can get extended shackles.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 7:51 am
by vicelore
well if the 2in lift shackles and a 2in BL would let me get some nice symex 31s under her with minimal seam bashing. i would be pretty happy .
im not that worried about the cog gettin to high. tho i dont know much about it so i do apreciate your advice.
But im still learning how to drive her so im not really pushing it very hard. and it has minimal road driving. as its a screw around weekend/camping car. if i get the shackles on it and some 31s . progress a bit and find it unstable as my skills get better i could always go back to the standard ones ? and maybey by then i would be happy to get out the angle grinder.

i did trust what the Arb dudes told me as he was a good dude but they also told me not to take off the sway bar . which i know nearly all of you have done. i spose its just personal preferance. Cheers guys

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 5:01 pm
by muppet_man67
the arb guys will never tell you to do anthing that will negatively impact on road driving. If it was my business I would tell people the same. your going to have to bash the seams on the firewall to fit 31inch pedes, even with a 2 inch bodylift. all it involves is a hammer, if your worried about looks paint it afterwards. it is far from cutting. if you dont do it when you buy your shiny new pedes they will get ripped to shreds by the seam on the firewall.

Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:20 pm
by vicelore
im quite happy to bash some seems . just dont wanna cut. the guards etc .