Outer Limits 4x4 Board

hey I am in the market for some new tyres and have some questions to ask.

Can I get a bit bigger tyres than factory size with no lift? If so what size, I have stock rims.

What tyres do you guys recommend, I am thinking all terrains as I do 90% road driving with an occasional weekend trip. So what would be the best for the ferozas going on your experiences, will be getting some in the next few weeks.

cheers Nico

30x9.5r15 Goodyear MTR

I think 30" fit on a stock Feroza (Someone clarify??)

You could always do a suspension lift on the old girl 2" would allow you to fit 30" or 31" comfortably.

The MTR are a great tyre with good onroad grip and great wet weather grip.
They are at thier best in the Rocky ( ) sections, and hold thier own in mud and sloppy conditions.

They are, however, a little noisier than an AT type tyre, you just have to weigh up whats important to you.
You can get a quiet tyre which is crap offroad or a bit noisier tyre that is great offroad and looks hot as onroad

(As you can tell I am a little bias and excited about my MTRs)


BTW - I do about 95% onroad driving also. They are very acceptable as a daily driver tyre.. maybe unless you do a few hundred kms a week.

You could also look at the Cooper ST tyres... they are towards the aggressive end of the AT market.

MTR's i agree. My bro has 29's on a stocko roza NT, fit fine.

Layto....

Nico, what sort of stuff do you do when you go off road; and what's more important to you - off road ability or grip and performance on road?

So far the suggestions have been heavily biased towards off road ability.

murcod wrote:Nico, what sort of stuff do you do when you go off road; and what's more important to you - off road ability or grip and performance on road?

So far the suggestions have been heavily biased towards off road ability.

An MTR will outperform most 4x4 tyres on road.

HotFourOk wrote:

murcod wrote:Nico, what sort of stuff do you do when you go off road; and what's more important to you - off road ability or grip and performance on road?

So far the suggestions have been heavily biased towards off road ability.

An MTR will outperform most 4x4 tyres on road.

That's a bit of a broad statement!

I find it hard to believe they'd be better than something like the Cooper ATR on road for handling. And in noise comparisons... well, there would be no comparison!

Sounds like to me Nico doesn't need something that serious as a tyre? We'll wait and see.

I am running Maxxis Bravo which is an all terrain tyre that does ok in most situations......except full on mud. They are 30X9.5 r15 and i have a 2" supension lift they still rub when turning and bouncing or going over something large while turning such as a big box curb. But hey in the sand she blitzes alot more expensive 4bies including autos with heaps more horsepower. If you like mud go with the gooyear mtr.

FROZY wrote:I am running Maxxis Bravo which is an all terrain tyre that does ok in most situations......except full on mud. They are 30X9.5 r15 and i have a 2" supension lift they still rub when turning and bouncing or going over something large while turning such as a big box curb. But hey in the sand she blitzes alot more expensive 4bies including autos with heaps more horsepower. If you like mud go with the gooyear mtr.

Funnily enough, the MTR's suck in heavy mud, its on the rocks they shine.

Layto....

IM running BFG All-terrain 30" on -28 offset rims. What rims you use will also make a difference on how big a tyre you can go. I had to jack it 2" and remove the front mud guards to fit them under.
As for tyres, The BFG AT's are good onroad, not too noisey, and decent in the sand and dirt. They last for a long time too.
Im going for the MTR's next as i'd like something more agressive.

lay80n wrote: Funnily enough, the MTR's suck in heavy mud, its on the rocks they shine.

Layto....

Though it depends on what you compare it to. In thick mud, an MTR will flog a BFG AT or similar, but is not on par with say a Simex ET/Super Swamper.

They hold thier own in mud, but are not a dedicated mud driving tyre.

They love the rocks, hey Layto Just like you

hey guys thanks for the comments so far, I am not after mtr's as I don't do enough four wheel driving to warrant them and I do at least 400 kms a week on the road so I am thinking all terrain. When I do go our for a wheel I do mainly sand with an occasional rock trip

cheers.

In that case, I've got the older style Cooper AT in 235/70R15 on 15 x 7" rims. No rubbing with standard suspension and a legal fittment in all states. (I'm not sure if the new rules have come out allowing more of an increase, but they were right on the legal limit for size increase when I got them.)

They handle really well on road - it's surprising how they hold on around corners! In the wet they could be better, but you have to be doing silly things before they start to slide and then it's progressive.

Off road on sand they are very good. Also impressed me on gravel tracks- no more sliding around on corners.

I'd recommend the Cooper ST.. its an AT, but a little chunkier than the ATR.

I noticed this week that my wife's ford truck has rims that have the same bolt pattern as my rocky. She has 17" rims on hers. Is it possible to go with a 16" or 17" without having to lift the body or suspension?

sure you can put on 16" or 17" rims but the tyres you put on will have to be lower profile then if you had 15"'s

im running 31x10.5x15 maxis buckshot muddies on 15x7 f100 rims with 100mm backspacing, I only have 2'' sus lift. They only rub on full articulation. But if your mainly driving bitumen then i'd go a/t. I have bfg a/t on my other 4x4 and would NOT recomend them to anyone. Its like skating on ice in the wet.


these are pics of the articulation it takes before they scrub

noice flex

HotFourOk wrote:

lay80n wrote: Funnily enough, the MTR's suck in heavy mud, its on the rocks they shine.

Layto....

Though it depends on what you compare it to. In thick mud, an MTR will flog a BFG AT or similar, but is not on par with say a Simex ET/Super Swamper.

They hold thier own in mud, but are not a dedicated mud driving tyre.

They love the rocks, hey Layto Just like you

He he he yeah. I found that my MTR's are almost as good as my BFG muds in the mud, but are better on the rocks than the BFG's. I use my MTR's as a road tyre, hardly any offroad on them. Offroad they are great, but have nothing on my swampers I rekon if they were equivalent size to my Swampers, then on the rocks they would be almost as good, but not quite

Layto....