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What is this hook for
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:12 am
by Ezookiel
This hook is on one side arm of the ARB bullbar on my car. It's so far under I didn't know it was there, and so far under it would also make it hard to use for recoveries if that was it's purpose. It also has some weird sort of plate welded to the tip of the hook which might make getting things on and off of it even harder than the location would cause.
It's attached by 3 very large high tensile bolts, or appears to be.
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:19 am
by MYTTUF
It's a standard Nissan recovery point.
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:22 am
by G_loomis
Not doubting myttuf...but could it be a tiedown point due to its location (tucked right underneath)????
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:53 am
by Ezookiel
It's flamin huge if it's a tiedown point, but if it's a standard recovery point, and the bullbar was added later (which it was) then it might explain it's now ridiculous position right up underneath.
So why the plate welded to the end of the hook?
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:05 am
by doddzee
Ezookiel wrote:So why the plate welded to the end of the hook?
To stop your rope coming off.
Dont use if ofr snatch recoverys they can break if a side load is placed on them.
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:31 am
by Ezookiel
OK, would have been nice if they mounted somewhere you could actually REACH it, but then I'm assuming it was from pre-bullbar days.
Will running a snatch down under the bullbar and up to the hook put too much strain or upward force on the bullbar in a recovery?
Can these things since they are bolted on, be moved somewhere more reachable?
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:11 am
by doddzee
Remove it throw it away and put on some propper 10000lb rateds tow hooks in a posistion that suites.
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:53 am
by 80lsy gq
doddzee wrote:Remove it throw it away and put on some propper 10000lb rateds tow hooks in a posistion that suites.
x2...
those hooks are crap
dave
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:14 pm
by j-top paj
standard nissan recovery hook, i have that on my GU
80lsy gq wrote:doddzee wrote:Remove it throw it away and put on some propper 10000lb rateds tow hooks in a posistion that suites.
x2...
x3 put some where they are easily reached
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:16 pm
by bazzle
Ive used the Nissan hook many many times withiout a problem on a few GQ's.
You can reach it easily and it is in a good strong part of the frame. If you recover sensibly you will not have any problems.
Im amazed you only "just" saw it. Have you only had the Patrol 1 day??
Bazzle
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:53 pm
by Hekta
G_loomis wrote:Not doubting myttuf...but could it be a tiedown point due to its location (tucked right underneath)????
It's the recovery point. The tie-down point is probably on the other side.
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:54 pm
by matthewK
it a recovery point like every one else is saying
iv use mine many times and its still attached
tie down point are welded to out side of the chassi
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 3:29 pm
by Ezookiel
bazzle wrote:Im amazed you only "just" saw it. Have you only had the Patrol 1 day??Bazzle
I've never needed to look for a recovery point cause it's a Nissan, it's never needed to be recovered. When I pull out other vehicles I attach their straps inside the towbar hitch.
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 4:36 pm
by Micka
Ezookiel wrote:bazzle wrote:Im amazed you only "just" saw it. Have you only had the Patrol 1 day??Bazzle
I've never needed to look for a recovery point cause it's a Nissan, it's never needed to be recovered.
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:25 pm
by dromana7411
i have one on the rear which i use alot. but the little bit has bent in.
where abouts do you guys who have arb bars on the front put your recovery hooks? and can i have pics please.
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:35 pm
by Ezookiel
I supplied a photo
LOL
It's on the Driver's Side of the car, on the main support arm of the ARB bar. And it sits up pretty high under there, so unless you are actually trying to locate a tool you dropped down the front of the car that hasn't fallen right through, you might never have known it's there. That's how I found mine, I had to stick my head up under my bar and viola.
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 5:38 pm
by Ezookiel
Micka wrote:Ezookiel wrote:bazzle wrote:Im amazed you only "just" saw it. Have you only had the Patrol 1 day??Bazzle
I've never needed to look for a recovery point cause it's a Nissan, it's never needed to be recovered.
Mind you, when it stops overheating enough for me to get out of my driveway, that situation might change
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 6:14 pm
by Shadow
Micka wrote:Ezookiel wrote:bazzle wrote:Im amazed you only "just" saw it. Have you only had the Patrol 1 day??Bazzle
I've never needed to look for a recovery point cause it's a Nissan, it's never needed to be recovered.
2nd that
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:54 pm
by dromana7411
Ezookiel wrote:I supplied a photo
LOL
It's on the Driver's Side of the car, on the main support arm of the ARB bar. And it sits up pretty high under there, so unless you are actually trying to locate a tool you dropped down the front of the car that hasn't fallen right through, you might never have known it's there. That's how I found mine, I had to stick my head up under my bar and viola.
nah, im after photos of recovery points people hav fitted that you can attach a strap to and the bullbar wont get in the way.
recovery point
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 8:48 pm
by workmonday
Im with you dromana, i have a deluxe arb bar and there is no easy way to fit a propper recovery hook. The standard hook on the chassis is a tie down point and it scares me to use it. I took off the overrider on the bar and there is a steel bracket so i might modify that and fit a couple of shackles.
Cheers
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:20 pm
by Weiner
Gone this one on the farm beast.
dent
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:22 pm
by embryo
the hook is an unrated factory nissan item, and we all know that recovery equipment must be rated.
with out a bull bar they are easily found. i wouldnt use it as a recovery hook as i have a lovely dent in the back of my car from when it broke off a patrol i was recovering. my father in law has seen one first hand go through the back window and hit the drivers head rest, lucky bloke was only left with a bruse.
my 2c, use it, dont use it, not worth the risk if you ask me
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:10 am
by roadrunner
Weiner,
Don't know if I'd be real keen on using that hook.
There isn't much metal in the top plate of that bar, and it doesn't look like its been plated, so it may simply rip the bolts out when put under a decent load.
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:46 am
by Beastmavster
Mine is bent so I will be replacing it before my next trip... other pririties right now thats all.
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:01 am
by jessie928
rated?
Mayte, its rated big arse enough to recover any vehicle that teh nissan attempts to recover. If nissan put that hook on D patrol, be SURE thats its rated for vehicle recovery. JUST like the recovery ring on the rear of the chassis that is also not rated.
Its a solid hook. if you want real testiicles then you fab a spacer and mount one opposite aswell. short of bashing the front down on it real real hard, you cant hurt it.
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:09 pm
by bazzle
dromana7411 wrote:Ezookiel wrote:I supplied a photo
LOL
It's on the Driver's Side of the car, on the main support arm of the ARB bar. And it sits up pretty high under there, so unless you are actually trying to locate a tool you dropped down the front of the car that hasn't fallen right through, you might never have known it's there. That's how I found mine, I had to stick my head up under my bar and viola.
nah, im after photos of recovery points people hav fitted that you can attach a strap to and the bullbar wont get in the way.
That hook works very well with the ARB deluxe bar. Ive had 2 of them the same. Same as Pic above.
Bazzle
Re: recovery point
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:10 pm
by bazzle
workmonday wrote:Im with you dromana, i have a deluxe arb bar and there is no easy way to fit a propper recovery hook. The standard hook on the chassis is a tie down point and it scares me to use it. I took off the overrider on the bar and there is a steel bracket so i might modify that and fit a couple of shackles.
Cheers
Someone must of removed the OE hook. ARB supplie fine thread bolts to remount with their bar.
Bazzle
Re: recovery point
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 7:04 pm
by workmonday
bazzle wrote:workmonday wrote:Im with you dromana, i have a deluxe arb bar and there is no easy way to fit a propper recovery hook. The standard hook on the chassis is a tie down point and it scares me to use it. I took off the overrider on the bar and there is a steel bracket so i might modify that and fit a couple of shackles.
Cheers
Someone must of removed the OE hook. ARB supplie fine thread bolts to remount with their bar.
Bazzle
What hooks are you talking about? The standard nissan one is shit. I want to mount some rated ones up high so i dont have to dig a hole in the mud to find the shit nissan one.
Posted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 11:21 pm
by dank
On my zook ARB winch bar it has two holes perfectly spaced to fit the bolts off a rated tow hook on the two main up rights just above the main bar section. do they have these on the pootrol bars? As it would be a nice easy spot to get to when you up to your armpits in mud....
Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 7:47 am
by GRINCH
those holes on the arb bar are shit, they bend and twist the uprights as well as buckleing the bar. i had them fitted there and after a light recovery they bent approched arb about it and they recond the holes where not even put in by the factory, until i pointed out the bull bar on their demo car also had them. after that they tried to come up with every escuse under the sun as to why they where there in the end he admitted they where for bolting on a hook but it wasn't to be used for recoveries only decoration