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what year 3.8 V6?
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:44 am
by zookdave
hi guys
i was wondering what year/model you would recommend putting in a hilux
as im looking for a mate wanting a V6 but he did not no what year
commodore engine year/modle to get it from, on a cheap conversion!
cheers
dave
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 8:26 am
by De-lux
from what i've read on here the VN / VP model is easier due to no BCM (body control module - the alarm thingo)
someone that's done it will be better to help you... if not have a search as their are many many threads on it
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:41 am
by BundyBrumby
Try to get your hands on a VN series 2, or VP motor. They are a smoother engine, and have the thermostat housing at the front of the block, rather than at the back like on VN series 1, which has a stupid metal pipe running around the drivers side of the block.
Re: what year 3.8 V6?
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 6:07 pm
by toyrex
zookdave wrote:hi guys
i was wondering what year/model you would recommend putting in a hilux
as im looking for a mate wanting a V6 but he did not no what year
commodore engine year/modle to get it from, on a cheap conversion!
cheers
dave
What year is the Hilux
The motor has to be of the same year or newer than the vehicle
Give Chevtorque in Maddington a bell 94932769 they are also agents for Marks
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:12 am
by g60boy
What year is the Hilux
The motor has to be of the same year or newer than the vehicle
not if you have it run on lpg only, then you dont need all that injetion cr@p or polution gear, im petty sure thats the case please correct me if im wrong.
series 1 vn v6 have two crank options auto or manual (just incase you didnt know).
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:29 am
by Sic Lux
Go the ecotec more available. mate had the eairly engine and went reasonbly well so i only could think the ecotec would be that bit better
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:32 am
by chook05
As toyrex said it has to be from same year model or later or it has to run straight gas as g60boy said I think you have to remove fuel tank ect to get it enginered
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:59 am
by 4sum4
De-lux wrote:from what i've read on here the VN / VP model is easier due to no BCM (body control module - the alarm thingo)
someone that's done it will be better to help you... if not have a search as their are many many threads on it
you can re-wire that out or use an eariler type wireing harness
and good info on here
http://www.v6conversions.com.au/
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:38 pm
by Turoa
Ecotec motors are by far the best. They come from VS commodores onwards.
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 10:40 am
by toyrex
g60boy wrote:What year is the Hilux
The motor has to be of the same year or newer than the vehicle
not if you have it run on lpg only,
With a statement like this we can see you have traveled extensivly on gas around Western Australia which covers over 30% of the Australian land mass
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 2:54 pm
by g60boy
g60boy wrote: Quote:
What year is the Hilux
The motor has to be of the same year or newer than the vehicle
not if you have it run on lpg only,
With a statement like this we can see you have traveled extensivly on gas around Western Australia which covers over 30% of the Australian land mass
sorry but i didn't mean to offend you but i was just stating a fact, im not saying he has to do it , but it maybe an option, thats all i was trying to say and i do a fair bit of gas driving my self.
Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 8:57 pm
by zookdave
thanks for all the replies i think the VP+ ecotech is the way to go with the Efi and all. cheers
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:11 am
by ricduza
Just hope you're prepared for the fuel bill. I've never got better than 20lt/100 km out of my Navara with VP V6 and T700 tranny. Going LPG was the only answer, but it is still relatively gutless.
I wouldn't waste my money on a commodore conversion. Even if you do it yourself as I did, you would be better off spending a similar amount on a 1UZ V8 conversion. Much more power and a far better motor. Commodore motors were designed to pull around a lighter, more aerodynamic vehicle than any 4x4 and although they are far better than what the standard 4 cylinder is, if you're going to spend money on a conversion you may as well go for the best option, otherwise you will forever be saying "If only".
Cheers, Ric
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:40 pm
by zookdave
jeez with that economy it cant b that gr8 of conversion.
they werent designed for a hilux but ther torque figures suit it quite well.
the 1UZ sounds good except for ther cost
are ther any cheaper 6cylinder toyota motors that r put into lux's?
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:41 pm
by ricduza
Any conversion done properly will cost more than you think. Presuming you will be doing the work yourself and can weld, you will be up for:
For the Commodore conversion, which is considered to be reasonably cheap, mainly due to the low cost of the motor and tranny:
Motor, complete with ECU, wiring harness, manifolds etc - $1600
Conversion kit- Mine was from V6 Conversions $2200 (included sump, engine mounts, wiring harness, transfer case adaptor, output shaft for transmission and speedo cable setup)
Cost of fitting output shaft into transmission (needs to be done by tranny experts)
Exhaust system $600
Engineer cert - $600
Larger radiator - $250
You can then sell your old donk and g/box for say $1500, but you'll also be up for a myriad of other small items to make the whole thing look and act professional.
If you use your existing manual box you will save on the transfer case adaptor and output shaft cost, but will be up for a manual flywheel, pressure plate etc, so much the same. The end result is still a far from perfect setup in my opinion.
By going 1UZ, your costs will be very similar as the front cut you will buy will be much the same as the commodore (1UZ s are very cheap) and at least you'll have something worthwhile and it will be all Toyota and may even gain a little in value, whilst the V6 will make the vehicle worthless.
To my knowledge, most of the other 6 cylinder toyota engines are straight 6s and would be too long for the engine bay.
Hope this helps.
Ric