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Schaffers coil kit???
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 7:15 pm
by SAWZALL
Anyone checked out these kits????
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthre ... did=190665
For about $14oo US (probably 3500 here) it looks like a good setup. You'd have to play with the front due to LHD. Maybe just the rear at $8oo US
Comments, questions, queries, concerns?????
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 8:56 pm
by OVERKILL ENG
Looks impressive by the time you get it here you can nearly times theyank price by 3.
I wouldn't mind making a kit like that interested.
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:03 pm
by SAWZALL
I'm gonna end up getting my wages diverted into your account hehehe
Yeah I'm figuring x 2.5 due to the strong aussie dollar
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:04 pm
by moose
Sam , if I get my car to you !
YOU CAN PRACTICE ON IT !!!!
no cost , of course !!!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:05 pm
by SAWZALL
Do you mean practice ramping our cars on yours
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:07 pm
by moose
NO !!!!!
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:08 pm
by bazooked
ramps 1 meter with 31s looks sweet i want 1
Posted: Mon Nov 03, 2003 9:10 pm
by OVERKILL ENG
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 7:05 am
by SAWZALL
How many people would be interested in a coil suspension kit for a Zook???
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 7:39 am
by stu
get a coiler and mod that.......mine is for sale!!!!
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 2:21 pm
by OVERKILL ENG
stu wrote:get a coiler and mod that.......mine is for sale!!!!
You would get better results from doing a conversion rather than playing with a coily sorry.
And yes uph11r and I are going to make a kit on his which will then be available to buy.
SAM
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 3:14 pm
by stu
worth a shot!
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 4:38 pm
by Guy
I would love a coil conversion setup, I am sick of axle wrap etc .. I dont care what anyone says you still get it SPOA or SPUA its a leaf spring .. designed to deform ..
What sorta money would we be looking at for a kit?? any chance of it being around $2000 to $2500
if so it would be very very tempting (I guess thats a pipe dream as it would have lots of man hours invloved in its design and production). The reason I ask is that at that sort of $$ it would still compare favourbly to a leaf setup by the time you sort it for decent travel and handling. (I am not including shocks in that price BTWas everyone says that <bilstein, rancho, koni. OME etc> is the best) just control arms, coils and mounts, brackets etc ..
And I guess what sort of chance of getting the kit (once installed) engineer approved ?? For the states that allow that kinda thing of course ..
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 8:44 pm
by SAWZALL
See Sam about pricing but mine should be finished next week
MUHHAHAHHAHAHA
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 9:05 pm
by N*A*M
i'd be down for an overkill coil kit
what's the chance of one being made (so i can save up some coin)
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 10:15 pm
by SAWZALL
Start saving NAM
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 10:38 pm
by N*A*M
so it's AWWWNNN right?
definite goer?
eeexxxcellent
Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2003 10:41 pm
by SAWZALL
I can't speak for Sam but time will tell
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:50 am
by SAWZALL
Here is a pick of Shaffers old kit
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 6:07 am
by OVERKILL ENG
If all goes well it will become a kit we will manufacture and sell.
Price wise I don't know but I will try and keep the price down.My aim is to try and make it for around $2-2500 mark.But until we make the first one I won't know.
SAM
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:23 am
by Drewfus
mmmm, very interesting.
Sam, keen to know how ya go..........
Cheers,
Drewfus.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:34 am
by grimbo
Is it going to be available as a front or rear kit as well as I'd be interested in going coils in the front only
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 9:32 am
by Guy
overkill wrote:If all goes well it will become a kit we will manufacture and sell.
Price wise I don't know but I will try and keep the price down.My aim is to try and make it for around $2-2500 mark.But until we make the first one I won't know.
SAM
If you can get it done for that sorta money even if it does not include shocks (as I said eariler) I think I would be very keen ..
I have looked at coils pretty extensively and as a one of thing and having to farm out alot of production as I have very limited facilities it's simply prohibitive for me to do (as you know it will never work perfectly first time out either)
So bring it on .. lets some some slinky suspended Zuks out and about
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:12 am
by OVERKILL ENG
The kits will be available in either end or both.
I am starting on it tonight.
SAM
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 2:43 pm
by Ferwoaza
Sam, what about using alternate axles with your kit, ie yota axles, will that be possible?
How much lift/what tyre size, are you aiming for with your kit?
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 7:38 pm
by stu
Would it be a bolt on situation or extensive chassis modification jobbie.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:30 pm
by OVERKILL ENG
Ferwoaza wrote:Sam, what about using alternate axles with your kit, ie yota axles, will that be possible?
How much lift/what tyre size, are you aiming for with your kit?
I guess so but the kit will be made for Zook running gear and we can modifie the arms to suit other diffs.
We sat the springs under it tonight and it lifted it about 6 inches. We have roughly worked it out and you should be able to run 31-32's with no body lift.
We made good progress tonight the lower arm mounts and the a frame mount are done so by the end of the week it should be sitting on the coils by itself.
Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:53 pm
by N*A*M
awesome!
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 3:46 am
by SAWZALL
Well, I just got home from Sams as I had to walk the 20 odd kms as the trains weren't running. I like the way it's going.
Think of it this way. Standard Sierra + (roughly, hopefully) $3000 coil kit + low transfer + welded rear diff + tyres and you'll go 90% of the places a full on buggy would go......
I'll let Sam answer any questions but I think this is gonna be AWESOME
Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 7:02 am
by N*A*M
i agree there.
you'll get rid of all the approach and departure issues too. so you won't have to run as big tyres for clearance. the links should also slide well. a slightly extended wheel base will help offroad and onroad. knowing sam's abilities, it'll have fantastic flex. disconnectable swaybars would be a good thing to include.
now i have to weigh up how seriously i want to take my car because this mod - despite how great it is - will cost more than the original cost of purchase of my car.