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Rear axle bearings and seals.

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:48 pm
by mattsluxtruck
Hi all
Im gunna change the rear axle bearing and seals when i fit the locker into my 85 4runner. I just went down to the local bits shop and got quoted $80 per side. Is this the going price or does anyone have any contacts or suggestions for me to get them?
Also while ive got it pulled apart is there any other suggestions on what to change? Its all running ok at the moment im just doing some preventative maintenance.
Ill be doing this at home so does anyone have any tips on doing the axle bearings to make it easier?
Thanx Matt

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:58 pm
by -Nemesis-
I just did the rear bearings on mine and I tell you they are the biggest PIA to get off. I couldn't press them off as they are behind the soft drum brake backing so I had to cut them. I would happily have paid $80 per side to have them done for me in hindsight, and that's not a bad price.

If only they were like the front IFS hub ones that actually fall out once everything is undone.

Did you buy a bearing kit? You should have a new outer axle seal (o ring) and a new inner oil seal as well, plus a rubber bearing seal i think it was... Make sure you get the new inner oil seal nice and square and dont bend it ;)

Not sure what a manual will say but i'm sure it will want you to pull the engine out to do the rear bearings :D

You don't have to take out the brake shoes, just disconnect the brake lines and pull out the hand brake cable for each side. Undo the 4 rear bolts and it should come off. If it's stubborn; Try putting the drum housing back on back to front with a few wheel nuts, then you can use it as a slide hammer to get the axle out ;)

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:00 pm
by mattsluxtruck
No the $80 a side wasnt to fit them. It was just to supply them over the counter.

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:04 pm
by -Nemesis-
Oh ok, you can get full kits off eBay which seem good quality for less than that, for the pair!

I don't think you'll be able to do the rear bearings without a press, unless you have one?

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:05 pm
by DIRTY ROCK STAR
try an actual bearing shop mate.

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:16 pm
by 80UTE
I do them for $100/side with good jap bearings. I have a special pressing jig i made up to do it easier also as with out it is a real biach to do. :lol:

Wally

Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:28 pm
by roadrunner
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/maintenan ... l_bearing/

This might help.

Don't worry about SSTs or presses, the shade tree method works best and is very quick, then simply tap them back onto the axle with a drift. Took me about ten minutes per side to get them on and off.

Have fun

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:32 am
by MudLux101
Hi

I just had to do my rear ones. $80 per side seems a bit steep. I picked up a wheel bearing kit (bearing and all seals) for $38 per side. From BWS Bearings in ringwood.

I know of the backyard way to do them but i just couldn't be bothered. i just pulled the axles and brought them to the local 4x4 place. he charged be $70 to replace both.

Then i just got home and put them back in. i was happy to pay as they can be a real pain.

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:35 pm
by dominic
yeah i did min earlier in the year.
wont be doing that again!
happily pay to have some one else change the bearsing over.

i would do as mudlux has,pull the axles out and get the old ones pressed off and the new ones pressed on and then just bolt your axles back in.

i think i paid about $80 or $90 for kits for both sides aswell.

cheers
Dom

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 4:37 pm
by mattsluxtruck
Got the bearing from Don Kyatt in seven hills for $46 a side!!!! Got home , stripped it down to get cracking on it and the locker , only to find my pinion is stripped! Stuff knows how it was still driving.
Now i need to get a 4.88 pinion quick smart.
Nemesis check your PM's ill take the one your selling...LOL

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:11 pm
by trains
Chaps, a little trick I use for getting the bearings off, since the backing plates wont allow normal pullers to be used.

I cold chisel the lock ring in several places to expand it.

Place a solid block of wood on the floor.

with axle flange/ backing plate facing up, and holding backing plate.
I lift them up, and then drop it down onto the timber (timber stops the splines from being damaged).
Sort of like using a crow bar to pack soil, let the weight of the axle do its work, dont try and belt it down on the wood.

Usually 3 to 5 taps and the bearing is free, no damage to anything, and nice and quick.

Pressing on is easy, just make sure you put the seal on correctly :lol:

Cheers

Trains

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:05 pm
by -Nemesis-
I think that depends on how long the bearing has been on. I destroyed a few bits of wood trying that and neither side would come off, hence I had to cut them.

Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 5:31 pm
by trains
Bugga!


I spose another 7 belts with the cold chisel will take the outer bearing race off, and enable you to spring the inner one with another set of well placed chisel blows ;).

T