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Vit diff Drop Brackets?
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:21 pm
by wokii
I hav read a bit about lifting ur vit to much can cause probs
coz of angles with ur cv's ect... So u need to do a diff drop.
But i hav been unable to find any pics of the brackets/mounts
Can anyone post one up 4 me? Or a web site that has em.
I could probly work it out 4 my self if i had a vit to look at
BUT i havnt got one yet (will start looking seriously in the new year)and i want to know what i hav to do so when i
do get it, i can get stuck into it coz i already hav the answers.
Also any other brackets/mounts ect that people hav modded or made
for strengh or reliabilty.
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 8:50 pm
by suzukiboy
Go to Zukiworld forum there are a coulpe of post about drop brackets and there is one overseas mod that just sells the brackets.
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 9:20 pm
by wokii
Thanks 4 that site! it gave me some answers but also some more questions.It just means more R&D
I did a search and found the following.
Thought i would post em up 4 every one else.
Front diff drop and a arm brackets: (with pics)
http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=111.0
Front diff drop brackets : (with pics)
http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=11768.0
diff drop brackets front/rear + other parts : (a shop somewhere)
http://www.vttr.com.tw/e4X4.htm
more Diff drop brackets tech:
http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=124.0
Also something interesting
Steel lx7 diff housing swap also a bit about gv diff housing swap:
http://www.zukiworld.com/forum/index.php?topic=11289.0
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:43 pm
by MUD-PIGSIERRA
As part of the Calmini Full suspension kit you get drop brackets for the diff.
Recently done on a friends Vitara
The kit
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:29 pm
by wokii
is this the 3" kit they do?
do u know how much that kit costs?
And is it legal in qld to fit this kit?
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:38 pm
by MUD-PIGSIERRA
Yes it is the 3" kit the rear A arm and Rose joint set up is great wicked flex.
Not sure of legalities in QLD Im in NT, but the kit is bloody awesome, I couldnt see why it wouldnt be the gear is all double the strenth of original gear. best see your local Motor transport authority on that one.
Cost I believe is just Short of $1900 including freight. Im pretty sure its worth it in the end instead of wasting time trying to find different bits that dont mesh well together
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:46 am
by Roctoy
that definitely looks the goods, have you got any pics of the car itself with the kit installed, it'd be good to see what it looks like now.
Cheers Chris
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:56 am
by sierrajim
Having had one of these kits in my old Vitara i can say they do work fairly well for a bolt on job.
The only thing they don't do is support the front diff any better than factory. You really should look at having the front diff mounts braced by way of having alloy gussets welded to the housing.
Maybe even a roctoy style ring around the 3rd member braced back to the chassis?????
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:08 am
by suzukiboy
Here is something I recommend doing with the 3" Calmini kit.
A few pics of the kit on my Vit.
Standard Vit rims.
30" MTR's
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:02 pm
by suzukiboy
Hey MUD-PIGSIERRA
Do you use lube on the polyurethane bushings?
Looks pretty clean on the control arm.
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 7:20 pm
by wokii
suzukiboy i c that u r in QLD.
Is the kit legal in qld.and does it require a mod plate?
or is it only illegal if u get caught?
Also please excuse my ignorance
A. What is the reason for modding the mount?
B. is this part of a diff guard?
If so does it provide any extra strength to the diff housing at all?
Cos i hav heard of people cracking there rear diif housing tube.
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:11 pm
by wokii
Ok i have just found this in the vehicle modifications booklet i downloaded a little while ago.
"The welding, chrome plating, heating or bending of
axles, suspension or steering components, as a method
of repair or alteration, is not permitted."
So does this mean this kit is illegal or can it be passed with a mod plate.
I am only worried as it will be a daily and it will have my kids in it every now and nen + i hav had 3 accidents ALL NOT my fault but all the other parties had no insurance. So i want to be sure if i do something to my vit and then be envolved in a crash/accident. that my insurance company cant say "you have made an illegal modifaction so your insurance is now void".
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:25 pm
by suzukiboy
No mod plates for suspension (was told that by Department of transport).
Raising of a vehicle is not as straight forward as saying this measurement is legal and this measurement is illegal.
A lot of other factors to consider.
Just read the NATIONAL CODE OF PRACTICE for LIGHT VEHICLE CONSTRUCTION and MODIFICATION.
Did that answer your question.
I found the old shock brackets were hitting the back of the new shocks and damaging them.
I hammered out the bracket and ground it down but still hit.
The diff guard is also a Calmini item, don't think it would give much extra strength to the diff.
Just take some of the beating off road.
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:33 pm
by wokii
Ok thanks for your fast answers.
It all sounds good.So where can i get this CODE
And did u import your 3" kit or did u get it in Aus somewhere?
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:39 pm
by suzukiboy
wokii wrote:Ok i have just found this in the vehicle modifications booklet i downloaded a little while ago.
"The welding, chrome plating, heating or bending of
axles, suspension or steering components, as a method
of repair or alteration, is not permitted."
Anyone feel free to correct me, but that refers to repairs/mods that would make the part acceptable to failure because of the process of welding/bending, etc.
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:42 pm
by suzukiboy
wokii wrote:Ok thanks for your fast answers.
It all sounds good.So where can i get this CODE
And did u import your 3" kit or did u get it in Aus somewhere?
I got my kit in a bulk order with a few guys in the NBS club.
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:12 pm
by wokii
This is the brochure i got it from
http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/LTAS ... an05v2.pdf
i can also pay for a copy of the code at GOPRINT.
U maybe right about" make the part acceptable to failure '
This could be there reason but it does not say it.
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:26 pm
by suzukiboy
Copy I found is 72 pages long.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:09 pm
by EU4RIA
suzukiboy wrote:
30" MTR's
I notice that you have correct camber on your vit. i've got a problem with positive camber. now i did read in the instructions that it compensates for a front bullbar which i don't have but i wouldn't have thought it would make so much difference to the camber? Plus it aslo says on the website that they are extended A arms for this purpose and mine seemed to be the same length as the originals???
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:21 pm
by wokii
suzukiboy wrote:Copy I found is 72 pages long.
Did u find it on the web?
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 9:04 pm
by suzukiboy
EU4RIA
I think you will have problems with the camber without a bulbar, you will have to cut the springs to get the camber right.
I still put a set of camber pins in mine to fix the camber.
I never put the old control arms up against the Calmini one's, but I am sure I have pics of them beside the standard ones and they looked longer.
wokii
I can't find the PDF file on the web.
This site has a link to the doc but can't see the PDF download.
http://www.dotars.gov.au/roads/publications/index.aspx
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:10 am
by EU4RIA
Well i plan on putting a Bullbar on but have to find one first. So choppin isn't an option plus its illegal.
And you have confused me with the camber pins??? My Vit only has a round hole in which the bolts locate so wouldn't allow any adjustment am i missing something or have you had yours modded?
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:55 am
by cj
EU4RIA wrote:Well i plan on putting a Bullbar on but have to find one first. So choppin isn't an option plus its illegal.
And you have confused me with the camber pins??? My Vit only has a round hole in which the bolts locate so wouldn't allow any adjustment am i missing something or have you had yours modded?
Pity you're so far away as I have a bar and winch i'm going to be selling.
The camber bolts will work fine for you, they just replace one of your existing bolts with a cam bolt. I got mine from Pedders. Even with the weight of the bar and winch and a little wear on the springs I still needed one side adjusting, the other was just ok.
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:31 am
by EU4RIA
cj wrote:
Pity you're so far away as I have a bar and winch i'm going to be selling.
The camber bolts will work fine for you, they just replace one of your existing bolts with a cam bolt. I got mine from Pedders. Even with the weight of the bar and winch and a little wear on the springs I still needed one side adjusting, the other was just ok.
Nothing is ever too far away for the right price. I've been seacrhin for a while now and have almost given up hope. Sikid01 had found one for me but it never got sent so got my hopes up and then got the shits in the end.
What sort of bar is it?
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:35 am
by suzukiboy
A good suspension shop can fix the camber without camber pins by elongating the holes.
Camber pins will give you more adjustment.
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 11:45 am
by cj
EU4RIA wrote:
What sort of bar is it?
ARB winch bar and a Ramsey 8000lb winch. PM me if you want to try and work something out.
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:26 pm
by wokii
I hav found a link on auszookers to the code of practice for light vehicles and mods
http://www.dotars.gov.au/transport/safe ... eb2006.pdf
113 pages
and heres a link to a heap of other codes
http://www.dotars.gov.au/roads/safety/b ... _ncop.aspx
Enjoy!