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Starting my Rear ToyConversion
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:22 pm
by nunoeumiranda
Hi to all
I'm thinking to start my Rear toy conversion in a rover axles that i have in my garage for a long time ago.
Well i need to know the ref of the Toy housing because in Portugal its hard to find a V6 housing
I have one from the Toyota Land cruiser Kzj70 3.0T in portugal we call Toyota Vx3 that's one fits?
Another question is about the Ring and Pinion
for a set of 37" what R&P?? from where?? yukon? or other?
I'm running maxxis 35" in a KAM 4.75 R&P anda have a ZF autbox...
Who help's?
Cheers from Portugal
Posted: Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:43 pm
by nunoeumiranda
well i found that uses the ARB Air Locker RD23 8" right?
It's that?
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:23 am
by DiscoDino
Hey Miranda...
For the rear you will need:
1. ARB part # RD23 (30 spline, Toyota 8")
2. Toyota LOW PINION, 8" V6 housing. These can be taken off the 4Runner SR5V6, and some Hi-luxes, main thing is that these housings have 6 webbings instead of the 4 cyl 4 webbing...also, main difference is that the V6 housing uses 50mm outside bearing diameter vs 45mm on the 4cyl one. You can also find them in the BJ73 or even FJ70.
3. 2 x 30 spline axles (Rover Tracks in US or Jac Mac in Aust)
4. You need to vore out the spindles in the rear (IIRC, they went from 32mm to 35mm, but I could be wrong)
5. You need the 30 spline Rover pattern flanges (same sources as above).
With the new 10 bolts drilled and everthing therein, you should have it done in a day for the first time, then 1/2 a day for the second and thereafer...
I am sure others will chime in with more detail that I may have missed
Nadim
Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:25 am
by DiscoDino
For gearing, I's suggest 4.88, the 2.74% difference between front and rear until you get the front on Toy set-up should be negligeable with Open diffs on the road...
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:59 am
by RedlineMike
Just a quick question...
if you do the above conversion can you still run with landrover hubs & wheels?
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:46 am
by cloughy
Yes
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:34 pm
by nunoeumiranda
Thanks to All
Nadim the problem here its the V6 its a rare thing in Portugal... I have lot's of Hilux in Portugal and all uses the same ARB locker the RD23..
They are diesel motors so i think it uses the 4 cylinder diff. but the ARB it's the same.. the R&P will be less stronger? or what's the real problem?
Sorry about the English

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:56 am
by DiscoDino
Hey,
If they use the RD23, then you are 1/2 way there, just measure the outside carrier bearing diameter and you NEED it to be 50mm and NOT 45mm...
The "4cyl" models have a weaker 3rd member where the pinion MAY be more eligeable to move away from the ring. Also the bearing size above mentioned.
If you cannot source one locally, STRONGLY suggest you source from an outside country...since you are doing the Toy conversion, it'd be a shame going 90% instead of the 100% benefits...
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:01 am
by nunoeumiranda
Nadim Great NEWS
One friend of mine have a Toyota Kzj70 most similar to the 4runner but just 2 doors and have one extra housing at home

he sell it to me 40USD with R&P

but i really don't know if i stay with the stock Toyota's R&P
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:46 am
by DiscoDino
GREAT!
What ratio? If it is 4.88, drive on it...just slap in the RD23
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:03 am
by nunoeumiranda
DiscoDino wrote:GREAT!
What ratio? If it is 4.88, drive on it...just slap in the RD23
That's the question my friend don't know the ratio :( but it's different than her stock.. I really don´t know what's the STD Ratio from the KZJ.
will check it

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 2:11 am
by nunoeumiranda
European STD Ratios for the KZJ 70 are the 4.55 and the 4.3..
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:32 am
by DiscoDino
hmm...get the 4.88 from an aftermarket...you are better off having the best from day 1
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:11 pm
by nunoeumiranda
DiscoDino wrote:hmm...get the 4.88 from an aftermarket...you are better off having the best from day 1
Nadim whats the best r&p aftermarket? Yukon?
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:19 am
by DiscoDino
That's like asking someone their favorite Chocolate...you can't get a straight answer...
I use Yuokon, no complaints up til now...
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:02 am
by nunoeumiranda
heheheh that's true Nadim.. but i don't now other ones

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:16 am
by DiscoDino
Precision Gear, Richmond Gear...etc...
some more info
http://home.4x4wire.com/erik/diffs/
Nadim
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 7:39 pm
by nunoeumiranda