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I am looking to buy some new tyres for my Rangie. I've decided to go for 35"/36" inch tyres. As i live in Victoria, the conditions i drive in are generally very muddy with some tree roots and rocks.
I've noticed a lot of people who originally went for the Centrepedes are now moving away from them and back to TSL's.
Given the conditions i drive in, what tyre do people recommend? I will be keeping my 33" M/T for road use.

my 34" simex JT2's for $1000

couldn't resist...

Dont even consider going to a tyre that large your engine wont pull it and your braking and steering will be dramatically affected.

I know what i am talking about i have been an engineer for 150years. I went to uni with Rokp00f if you dont believe how much experience i have

ZZZZ Nice try. Why have you decided to sell them? What are you changing to? How have you found them to perform?

MickBj42, I'm already running 33's without any dramas. I have lowered the ratios and run a Holden V8 + upgraded brakes. All that aside, the point of the post is what style tyre i should run NOT what size.

i hope i am nowhere near you when you drive that death trap! You are insane if even consider them.

MickBj42 - Given the size tyres most people are running on this forum, you probably better not venture out of the driveway if ya wanna be safe.

where in Melb are you.
Michael.

TuffRR wrote:MickBj42 - Given the size tyres most people are running on this forum, you probably better not venture out of the driveway if ya wanna be safe.

I am pulling the pi$$ out of Roktruk. Check this thread.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modul ... .php?t=821

BUY my 42s you homos

I'd go for a set of Q78s which are about 35.5 x 11. A guy in our club is running them on his Gwagen and they are an awesome tyre. Easy to fit on a 7" rim with beadlocks and they seem to wear well for a soft offroad tyre and he has no dramas on the hwy with them

I'm real happy with my 35" Centipedes on my Feroza !!

I guess the real question is.......Is money consideration

Id go for the 34" JT2 if you wernt keen on cutting the sheet metal.

Something like a Q78 would be nice but I would guess that it would be hard to fit under your rangie.

Sam

I am changing to 36" swampers or maybe Q78's but I really want to go wider....

My simex JT2's have been very very good.

I would rate them better than the extreme trekkers - I know some will disagree, but I am sure I saw Trent Leen running them instead of extreme's a while ago at some comps. Can anyone clarify that?

Anyway - they have worn very well. I have probably 15,000km on them and quite a lot of trips offroad, they have a few nicks ands cuts on some of the tread blocks but are still around 80% tread.

Helps having a jeep as it is a fairly light rig.

If I was staying at the 34-35" size I think I would pick up another set before looking at the extremes.

Would like to try some 35x13 claws as well - and would like to try some 35" MTR's, too worried about how the MTR's will go in the slop.

If you want to have a look at them let me know. I am in South yarra/prahran.


cheers

z

My1¼¢:
7" rim difinately the Q78's
8" rim 36x12.5 SX
If the $$ can't stretch for the SX then the TSL Bias 36x12.5...

Preferably get a set of beadlocks to make the most of the swampas....
FYI I run 36x12.5 TSL Bias on 15x8beadlocks and loove 'em

Trent Leen is indeed running JT2s. He is running the 34x11.5, which he prefers to the thinner Centerpide.

Would the Q78 be a better mud tyre than the Simex (either JT2 or Centipede). Also, what are peoples opinions on width? I am thinking of going 10.5 as i think skinnier tyres bite in mud rather than float as a 12.5 might. Any recommendations?

Skinny, digs through and less frontal resistance....
Fats, better chance of using sidewalls on the edges of ruts......

For Vic conditions where mud is the norm I would go the skinnys (i'm running 34 x 9.5 Swampers on the Zuk) They tend to dig a bit better and give a bit more control on the steep muddy climbs whereas the wider tyres tend to float on the surface almost aquaplaning sort of I find they are easier on components easier to turn and easier to stop

Why have people been moving away from the Centipedes? Is it just that they aren't as good as swampers on rocks?

the centipedes are very stiff and don't seem to have the grip on rocks etc but do work well in the mud. They seem to be a specific tyre whereas the swampers are a bit more allround

The Centerpide is also directional, which makes it excellent in mud, but many people don't like it on other surfaces. The Jungle Trekker 2 is a more all round tyre, and is non-directional, so you don't have the hassle with the spare.

I have been running my 34x10.5R16 JT2's for the last 12 months and I am very happy with them. They are a little thin, but I fixed this by reversing the rims, giving me over 2 inches more at each side. They work well on most surfaces, although you have to let them down to around 12 before they start to work. Ride pretty good on the road, although they are very loud, and the flat spots in the morning can be a pain. You just need to remember that you have them on, as they don't corner anywhere near as well as a BFG.

I run Q78 Swampers on my GU patrol, and my Brother, 35" Centipedes.

Comparing the 2, i have come up with the following Personal Opinions:

Both are noisey.

Centipede seems to handle better onthe road, personally, i think it is due to the fact the centre section of hte tread is tighter, and more interlinked in the Cent, which gives it more road going stability, also the sidewalls are a lot Stiffer on the centipede.

in the mud and slop, the Swamper seems to bite a little better, and bags up at Low Pressures a little better, but, they are both a fairly close match.

I beleive the Swampers is better on the rocky stuff.

Lastly:
Trent Uses both Centipedes (supplied due to being Sponsored by Simex) and Jungle Trekker II. He is often seen around on the JTII's as from a discussion i had with a mate who has spoken to him a fair bit, he prefers them around Vic.

srowlandson wrote:Lastly:
Trent Uses both Centipedes (supplied due to being Sponsored by Simex) and Jungle Trekker II. He is often seen around on the JTII's as from a discussion i had with a mate who has spoken to him a fair bit, he prefers them around Vic.

Correct, although according to Wayne Smith, since the 11.5 JT2 came out the Centerpides haven't been used much.

I run a set of 35 " baja claws and run mostly in tight steep muddy trails with occasional rock. The tires are radials and really bulge well aired down and comform to rocks they work really well in the mud i am surprised at how well they stay on my 8" rims in really soupy mud at 12psi. The also are really quiet on the road. In my opion a much higher quality tire than the swampers, also they were about $400.00 cheaper than the same size swamper here in Oregon.[US] thats my 2cents.....I would love to try those centepedes though tyey arent avalable here

see told you mine were worth buying

I'll vouch for ZZZZZ tyres - i've seen 'em work and they do bite very well.

Lucky for me a mate is selling his 16" ones!!! Yay!!!!

nyuck, nyuck, nyuck......... :wink:

Hi

I run beadlocked 35* 10.5 Centipedes (often at single digit pressures) on my GQ Shorty in the Xtreme Winch Challenges and am very impressed with their traction on all but wet rock. (What does work here anyway!!? ) We do pump up the front if expecting a faster stage.

A mate who runs a Hilux and has run Claws for quite some time bought Centipedes and is now very dissapointed.

Our conclusion is that the Claw is much softer than the 'pedes sidewall and probably suits his lighter vehicle better. He does not have beadlocks and is not game to lower the pressures below 12psi.

I am keen to trial the Q78's the Vics rave about.

Trent was running 34/11 JT2's for the 2nd and (I think) 3rd round of the Winch Challenges. Wayne said they used them for the dryer conditions in QLD. (I think that it had may have had something to do with nil Centipedes in stock and LOTS of JT2s in stock at the time...)

Peter

Wayne was saying the other night that they are waiting for the 37 Centerpide, which is due early next year. 8)

The claws work well, but need to be run at very low pressure as they don't bag out well, especially under light rigs. I have seen the 35 Bias Claw under a TJ Jeep at 5 psi and they looked like they were at 30psi. I am not particularly impressed with the 33 or 35, but the 37 works very well, as the tread blocks are larger, with more space in between.

The claws just take alot of miles before they soften up. Mine are awesome now, and at 10 psi under a 2000kg truck they will just about turn inside out without breaking a bead, but they were terrible for the first 3 or 4 months, like you said no difference between 5 & 30 pounds.