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just wondering Where do you get heavy duity rear lower control arms from in vic i have tryed to look up big pig and cant find any thing

You can get them from

www.bbmotorsports.com.au
www.3rdsproductions.com.au
www.abt4x4.com

Thats just a couple i know off the top of my head, there could be more.

If in Vic, try Cheezy Racing

Ebay from Hobzee

Greg at Smithie's Outback Gear in Cranbourne makes them.

hobzee is cheap and good quality 4wdshop.com.au i think it is or 0413993597

There shouldnt be any 4wd shop in Vic that dosent know about them or couldnt get them for you.
And if you gave a Suburb. I would say some one could even give you the cloest one with a 20min drive.

sandy from aus4wd

makes them as well

badger wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Nissan-Patrol-GU ... dZViewItem

Those arms may be heavy duty but they aren't heavy duty adjustables, which is what you need for any GQ with a substantial lift

Yeah those places are all good

However, i had mine manafactured to a different set of specs. Mine were done out of extremly thick solid steel. they are nearly 20KG each trailing arm and were made slightly longer to allow for the 7" lift to center the diff in the arches.

Adjustable are just about as good though they do have a weak point at the joint

andrew at ontrack4x4 in east keilor sells them also i think they are around 190 a pair without bushes

badger wrote:
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"Those arms may be heavy duty but they aren't heavy duty adjustables, which is what you need for any GQ with a substantial lift"

90% of the comp boys use a solid lower thats a bit longer than standard and adjustable uppers
as adjustable lowers tend to bend or become non adjustable after some use

no need for adjustable trailing arms, just adjustable panhards to suit the lift & align the wheels.

Your choices are endless from where to source them from, cheezy's would have to be the most solid of them all i've seen as he uses the best tube but really they are all shit loads better than standard..

That reminds me i should replace mine

Got mine from cheezy(im in WA postage was pretty reasonable) and I love em, they can't be killed

MyGQ wrote:Yeah those places are all good

However, i had mine manafactured to a different set of specs. Mine were done out of extremly thick solid steel. they are nearly 20KG each trailing arm and were made slightly longer to allow for the 7" lift to center the diff in the arches.

Adjustable are just about as good though they do have a weak point at the joint

A bit of overkill me thinks. Mine are made out of 40x20 Hollow bar (10mm wall thickness) and are 25mm longer than standard, and I cannot harm them. I have dropped the weight of my vehicle directly onto the trailing arms many times and they haven't bent at all. I thought I over did it a bit when I made mine, but we have a new contender for the over-engineering award.

Sounds strange but hollow bar is actually stronger than solid

yeah might be a bit overkill on the over engineering part, but i rather do it once and never again, i can tell i won't bend them from what they are made from, and considering the guy made them for me for nothing, i ain't gunna complain, I have some good friends.

Stu'sBeast wrote:Sounds strange but hollow bar is actually stronger than solid

That wouldn't surprise me actually, it has a different surface to transfer the weight over. mine i foudn out aren't solid all the way though, they are hollow but very small hole. have to get the exact dimentions but these suckers are 20K each, weighed them

Loosenuts wrote:Greg at Smithie's Outback Gear in Cranbourne makes them.

Im using smithys control arms , very strong and reasonably priced .

Stu'sBeast wrote:Sounds strange but hollow bar is actually stronger than solid

Hollow bar is also made out of harder steel than solid rod, which is mild steel.

badger wrote:badger wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Nissan-Patrol-GU ... dZViewItem

"Those arms may be heavy duty but they aren't heavy duty adjustables, which is what you need for any GQ with a substantial lift"

90% of the comp boys use a solid lower thats a bit longer than standard and adjustable uppers
as adjustable lowers tend to bend or become non adjustable after some use

No worries, I didnt see anything saying they were longer than standard.

How much longer should they be for 6" suspension lift?
I was thinking of using 30NB sched 40 steam pipe for mine but not sure how much longer to make them for a 6" spring lift.

cheers

i have smithies arms, very good, he can make them to any custom length that you want.

sudso wrote:

badger wrote:badger wrote:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Nissan-Patrol-GU ... dZViewItem

"Those arms may be heavy duty but they aren't heavy duty adjustables, which is what you need for any GQ with a substantial lift"

90% of the comp boys use a solid lower thats a bit longer than standard and adjustable uppers
as adjustable lowers tend to bend or become non adjustable after some use

No worries, I didnt see anything saying they were longer than standard.

How much longer should they be for 6" suspension lift?
I was thinking of using 30NB sched 40 steam pipe for mine but not sure how much longer to make them for a 6" spring lift.

cheers

Are your quarters chopped? 20mm longer should do it but depending on the size tyre you will probably have to trim the guard.

15 to 20mm is the general consensus.
only drama is once you get the pinion angle right your tyres will hit the rear half of the gaurd more

so once again us wagon drivers have to get the grinder out

Yeah I will have to cut and shut the rear of the guards and get flexi flares, it's got 35's. I had to do the same to my Rodeo on the front ones when I fitted 33's.
Theres quite a bit of rearward deflection in the rear springs as it sits.

I'll probably just buy adjustable upper arms to correct the diff pinion angle.