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Need Help! No power to anything!

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:49 pm
by Nev
Ok guys got a 1.3L sierra and was just adjusting the fan belt tension (alternator bracket of course) and stupid me didnt bother disconnecting the battery and have touched a wire near the alternator. A big puff of vapour stuff came up from the positive terminal and now I have absolutely no power to anything. All fuses are fine and have swapped in another battery with the same effect of nothing so presume its fine. So what I have I done? Obviously blown a solinoid or regulator I something. Any ideas?

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:56 pm
by Nev
ok had a bit more of a look and I do have power to things like brake lights and spotlights which have been wired in to work without ignition so I presume it is ignition power related. Anything that runs of accesories etc. from the ignition wire doesn't work.

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 6:15 pm
by mroffroader
haha strange i did this the other day on my vitara, it turned out to be the main engine fuse the big sucker 60amp that has a bolt hold it in, its located in the engine bay not sure where on a serria try that other than that i dont know sorry :roll:

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 6:24 pm
by Nev
where was the fuse situated on the vit? In the engine bay or inside the car and near what? Its probably much the same place for sierras..suzuki never seemed to change much.

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 7:43 pm
by Bad JuJu
Is the fuseable link is OK??

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:33 pm
by Nev
what is the fusable link and where do I find it? Sorry...dont no much about electronics

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 4:17 am
by mroffroader
hi its in the engine bay, mine was right next to the battery there usually in a little plastic box type thing to keep them from getting splashed etc and you undo a couple of screws and lift the top off and there should be 3 or 4 BIG fuses totally different to the little piddley ones inside, just have a look around your engine bay for something that looks like it comes apart and had electrictal type things in it :roll: sorry it is really quite hard to explain :bad-words: .........keep us posted ;)

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 6:22 am
by Nev
had a chat to a few mates and I think the engine fuse is just on EFI vehicles and id say I've blown the fusible link between the battery and alternator. Found a picture to identify where it is located I've just gotta work out how to replace it and what size it is to get a new one. Does anyone know? Do I just cut out the out one and wire a new one in its place? what size wire must I use? Thanks for your help!

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:09 am
by fool_injected
Nev wrote:had a chat to a few mates and I think the engine fuse is just on EFI vehicles and id say I've blown the fusible link between the battery and alternator. Found a picture to identify where it is located I've just gotta work out how to replace it and what size it is to get a new one. Does anyone know? Do I just cut out the out one and wire a new one in its place? what size wire must I use? Thanks for your help!
Where is the fusable link, I am having the same trouble, I hope

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:11 am
by intens
the fuseable link is next to the batt + looks like a wire and sometimes red and about an inch in lenth, you can rplace it with just wire (temporaraly only) if you have no electrical faults

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 11:31 am
by v840
I had similar problems with mine recently. After tracking down the engine fuse/ fusible link et al. it turned out to be a melted connector coupling on the + wire

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:01 pm
by Drover_Pete
intens wrote:the fuseable link is next to the batt + looks like a wire and sometimes red and about an inch in lenth, you can replace it with just wire (temporaraly only) if you have no electrical faults
Nev it does sound like the Fusible Link ... is yours an Nt or WT - it should be the same on both.

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:09 pm
by bazooked
it usually hangs of ur positive side with all the other leads, its about 4 or 5 mm in dia, and about 30mm? long.

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:50 pm
by Oscars
a auto elec will sell u a piece of it.

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 8:37 pm
by Bad JuJu
Replace it with a regular inline fuse of the correct rating. then you can replace whenever you need to. Make sure you use a waterproof fuse holder.

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:42 pm
by Nev
Bad JuJu wrote:Replace it with a regular inline fuse of the correct rating. then you can replace whenever you need to. Make sure you use a waterproof fuse holder.
Did exactly this tonight after a trip to repco where nobody even knew what i was talking about and I didnt know which was the right one. Everything working again now thanks guys! Will this inline fuse be ok to do the job permanentely or should I get a fusible link to replace it? Also it has blown the relay in my spotlights so switched to a new narva 5 prong relay and now they wont work with the highbeam just through the switch independantly even though I've set it up exactly the same way? Followed every method of wiring them up that I found searching and none have worked..relay definitely works so cant work that one out? any ideas or good wiring diagrams?

Also now the temp guage isn't working and now and then upon start up there is a large bang like something is being jolted and hitting the bonnet or something. Anyone had any similar experiences? It doesnt sound real good :?

Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:04 pm
by intens
you sure you have the right rating in line fuse?/ your better off going to the wreckers and getting one, Surprised with repco :silly: :silly: :silly:

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:01 pm
by Nev
ive been advised by a mecho that a 40amp will probably be about right but does anyone with auto electric experience dispute this?

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:07 pm
by sanger
I had the same problem. Used an inline fuse temporarily to get it home (unsure of what size fuse) and took it to the auto sparky and he replace it with fuse wire (not sure of its correct name ). cost me $10 and havnt had a prob since.

Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 7:25 pm
by Guy
40 amps is heaps .. if your pouring more amps than that into the battery .. it may not last all that well .. ;)

Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 6:23 am
by Nev
ok thanks guys, I dont think I load the battery that much. I did have a 15amp in there temporarily as I read in another post that the stock fusible link was 20amp and couldnt get a 20amp that night. Does that sound right? Should I just put a 20amp in there?