Outer Limits 4x4 Board

Posted: **Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:45 pm**

does anyone know of a leaf spring that is 50mm longer than the stock rears and will leave the axle where it is.
wanna have a play over the break and try some ideas out

Posted: **Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:19 pm**

Not sure but some early jeep springs are 50mm and have been used. CJ i think the model was, not sure.

Posted: **Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:28 pm**

or ive heard of using mazda 626? springs...they are spose to be longer and quite flexy but dont know where they position the axle. tubezook on here had them on his old zook i think?

edit...name maybe tubesuzi on this forum?

Posted: **Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:50 pm**

mazda 929 springs are 50mm with the same bushes as zook ones too, from memory 6" longer then stock rear. Mine have been drilled to move diff back 4" but stock i think they will keep the diff in the same spot as zook rears. They are quite flexy

Posted: **Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:06 pm**

maz 808 ones also i beleive.

Have a look in my members thread below link for the brackets i made to fit the cjs in. I have not fitted them up with the diff in as i want to get the full weight in and get it moving first before playing with too much.

i am going to get some custom one length fronts done for ruf once i get to this stage also.

nic

Posted: **Wed Dec 20, 2006 7:06 am**

808 or 323 wagon !!
I have both on my zook !!
808 on the front & 323 on the rear !!!
front(is Reverse Shackle) but moved shakle backwards !! (didnt extend chassis)

rear is standard mounts , with long shackles !!
moved centre pin hole back 30mm ! pin hole was to far forward , & on compression , tyre touched front edge of wheel arch !!

Posted: **Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:04 am**

Feroza rear springs.

Layto....

Posted: **Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:27 am**

Maybe we could all get some lengths of all these springs eye to eye and centre pin?

929 are 1160mm eye to eye. And from front hanger to centre pin is 500mm and i have my rears redrilled at 620mm (centre pin).

I have these front and rear and I couldn't be happier with them for a leaf spring setup.

Posted: **Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:28 am**

markil wrote:Maybe we could all get some lengths of all these springs eye to eye and centre pin?

929 are 1160mm eye to eye. And from front hanger to centre pin is 500mm and i have my rears redrilled at 620mm (centre pin).

I have these front and rear and I couldn't be happier with them for a leaf spring setup.

post your wheelbase at the same time and door handle heights would be appreciated to.

Posted: **Wed Dec 20, 2006 11:41 am**

Most are on here.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic ... ight=mazda

Hard to find a crappy set for nix or cheep to play with but.

MOOSE - have u got pics of the rear setup and the shackles?

Nic

Posted: **Wed Dec 20, 2006 8:46 pm**

so what is the overall length of a stock rear spring in mm from eye to eye?

Posted: **Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:49 am**

nicbeer wrote:Most are on here.

http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic ... ight=mazda

Hard to find a crappy set for nix or cheep to play with but.

MOOSE - have u got pics of the rear setup and the shackles?

Nic

updated members , with some new pics !!!

Posted: **Sat Dec 23, 2006 10:02 pm**

markil wrote:mazda 929 springs are 50mm with the same bushes as zook ones too, from memory 6" longer then stock rear. Mine have been drilled to move diff back 4" but stock i think they will keep the diff in the same spot as zook rears. They are quite flexy

What length shackles you running with those 929 springs in the rear??

Posted: **Sun Dec 24, 2006 3:35 pm**

basketcase wrote:
markil wrote:mazda 929 springs are 50mm with the same bushes as zook ones too, from memory 6" longer then stock rear. Mine have been drilled to move diff back 4" but stock i think they will keep the diff in the same spot as zook rears. They are quite flexy
What length shackles you running with those 929 springs in the rear??

About 120mm hole to hole. The rear mount was moved about 100mm back too and the shackle sits on a 45 degree angle

Posted: **Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:55 pm**

the thing im trying to get is a spring i can use with a longer shackle and dont have to move any mounts. thus the reason i only want them about 50mm longer.

Im leaning towards springs from a datsun 1200 ute as they are only 60mm longer and are same width and if i put them in backwards it should move diff back 50 mm
will go measure up at the wreckers after xmas.

Posted: **Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:10 pm**

Interested to know how this is going. Any progress B4T?

Posted: **Sat Dec 30, 2006 9:46 pm**

springs have been put on hold as i have to get some stuff done on the extension so we can move into it by the end of jan. BLOODY women

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:56 pm**

How are people going with this?
I have OME 50mm rears spoa and I keep inverting the shacles so why not kill 2 brds with 1 stone .. longer rear springs no more inverted shackles and hopefuly better ride and wheel travel.
Nik

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:08 pm**

Depends on how many mods u want to do unless u want bolt on.

I have a set of CJs here and they are longer by about 4" and also flexy in a 5pak set.

In my members thread i have made a bracket to mount them up and tryed it out but not on road or with full weight yet. Basically copied off Gutless's one he trialled.

Nic

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:34 pm**

nicbeer wrote:Depends on how many mods u want to do unless u want bolt on.

I have a set of CJs here and they are longer by about 4" and also flexy in a 5pak set.

In my members thread i have made a bracket to mount them up and tryed it out but not on road or with full weight yet. Basically copied off Gutless's one he trialled.

Nic

where'd you get the cj's? do arb sell them in ome here or anything? or is it a import or secondhand only job?
while on the topic, can we buy ome yj's here in aus?

Posted: **Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:11 pm**

they were 2nd hand from mate.

nic

Posted: **Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:34 pm**

I'll post this in the for sale section soon - but i have a pair of cj5 springs for the rear that i'm going to sell. They're about 50mm longer than zook rears, and taller too - not sure how much taller tho.
Selling cause i dont have the time etc to put them on.
I'm in Sydney.
PM me if your interested.

James

Posted: **Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:12 pm**

I went searching at the wreckers today, nothing.. no springs 50mm wide.
I found feroza nt rears are 60mm wide and 46" long and at a rough look the centre pin is 22" back.
Both zook and feroza have 70mm front spring mounts so that shouldnt be a problem. Im thinking I might redrill the front hole 1" ? and use longer rear shackles. What do you think?
I have to do something my new ome rears leave the shackle straight up and down and when it flexes they invert, and the stock rears Im using up front must be 1/2" longer than the previous ones so the front shackles flip all the way forward at rest.
Nik

Posted: **Thu Jul 26, 2007 9:52 am**

if you want jeep springs try hunter four wheel drive spares he wrecks them only got ph no 0249845121 he is very cheep

and has a few zook parts i paid $80 for a good fuel tank

Posted: **Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:45 pm**

just go to a spring manufacturing place.

tell them what you want and they'll make them.

i've just done this, and they were $90 a main leaf, i only need the main leaves. custom lenght etc...

they had them for me within 10 days.

mitch

Posted: **Thu Aug 02, 2007 6:03 pm**

Yep should have got longer mains made

With the roza springs located on the axle the front was 2" longer and the rear was 4" longer. I was going to use the front mount and use longer shackles on the rear but with just 4" longer at the rear and 2" longer shackles it just folded flat on the chassis.
All the messing around I think I,ll just look into getting a longer main made up.
Nik