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Hawse fairleads
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:06 pm
by 86MUD
Hi all
What are the advantages of a Hawse fairlead over the roller fairlead? I run a warn 9500 with wire rope and roller fairlead. Apart from the hawse being neater, are there any other advantages?
Cheers
Andrew
Re: Hawse fairleads
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 12:24 pm
by Gribble
86MUD wrote:Hi all
What are the advantages of a Hawse fairlead over the roller fairlead? I run a warn 9500 with wire rope and roller fairlead. Apart from the hawse being neater, are there any other advantages?
Cheers
Andrew
Your not supposed to run metal wire rope with a hawse BTW.
They protude less, are more pedestrian friendly (if you really care) and dont need lubrication.
Re: Hawse fairleads
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 1:49 pm
by hottiemonster
Gribble wrote:Your not supposed to run metal wire rope with a hawse BTW.
thats only alluminium.
alluminium = rope
steel = wire
i ran a steel one with my wire rope for 3 years and had no problems.
now i run rope with alluminium
although some people run rope through a steel hawse fairlead, but just as long as its nice and smooth to not damage the rope at all.
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 2:44 pm
by ausyota
A hawse doesnt stick out as far so gives you better aproach angle and no rollers out front to get bashed on rocks.
Most people run a ally hawse with plasma rope as the rope can get jammed into the corners of a roller fairlead as its more flexable than wire.
A roller fairlead is better for pulling on an angle as you have less friction on the cable.
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 4:16 am
by David_S
I have been using a hawse fairlead for 20 years with wire rope. Hawses are fine with wire and were supplied by Warn as standard equipment. However mine is now becoming quite grooved in places especially at the ends and is overdue for replacement, but I will probably just get out the file until I switch to synthetic. David
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:25 am
by PM 1
Its now recommended here in the UK to use a stainless steel fairlead with plasma rope as the mud and dirt which gets stuck in the rope gradually eats away at the softer aluminium. There are pictures some where of an aluminium fairlead thats been eaten away at the edges following just 3 challenges I think it says. Unfortunately I cant find them but will post them up if I do. It is remarkable how easily the metal is cut into by the rope. The small pieces of aluminium then become ingrained in your rope gradually cutting away at that too.
Warn used to have a black steel fairlead that came with steel rope equiped winches. From what ive seen here, guys use roller fair leads with steel and either aluminium or stainless steel with rope.
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 6:30 am
by PM 1
ive found the pictures guys, but how do i post them?
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 8:33 am
by ausyota
Either use
www.photobucket.com or email them to me and I will put them up.
teamcarnage (at) westnet.com.au
Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2006 9:02 am
by Roctoy
to my knowedge people are now getting defect notices for having the roller fairleads that protrude from the bull bar.
Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:15 am
by PM 1
Carnage - I emailed the two pics across this evening. I think they'd be of interest to anyone with a winch using plasma or other synthetic ropes.
Cheers
Paul
Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:00 am
by ausyota
Here are the pics of the worn ally fairlead.
PM have you got any more pics or info on a stainless failead? I dont think I have ever seen a SS fairlead before.
Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 7:01 pm
by PM 1
Yeah, no probs. They are manufactured by a company in England called Devon 4x4. Ill email you a pic. Their web site is
www.devon4x4.com
Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:00 pm
by ausyota
Stainless fairlead.
Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2006 5:20 am
by PM 1
So what do you guys think of the fair lead? Do you have any experience of this type of product over in aus? From what I have seen of events such as the Warn winch Challenge series and Outback Challenge, there is some extremely heavy duty winchin and driving going on. Looks awsome like. I would imagine gear is tested to its limits.